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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:16 am to
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:16 am to
Russian Federation
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Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
1411 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:17 am to
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So they are giving credit to Biden for taking down one of our greatest geopolitical foes

When did this happen?



You people.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:18 am to
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I would not want to frick with Biden if he toppled a nuclear power and our historical foe just to move the news cycle off of his son


While making millions and millions of dollars
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58133 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:18 am to
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When did this happen?


Just like they said, when the check cleared.

Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
1308 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:19 am to
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Who is this Tendar guy? He seems to think UA is about to offer terms of surrender to RU forces
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5179 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:19 am to
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Shock and awe. Get to Moscow quickly and have the current regime run and Prighozin followers stay.


Nah he probably just wants the resources in the east. Just a feint.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55852 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:19 am to
People give the dnc and intelligence community wayyy too much credit sometimes
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6873 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:19 am to
He's just one of the many long-term twitter posters following the war.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
1308 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:21 am to
Does he have any actual connections to make statements like that or is he just spitballing like everyone else?
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
3399 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:23 am to
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Guys like this are following the Jack Posobiec playbook. Spend a few years in low level naval intelligence or some anonymous service role, start a social media account claiming connections from said low level service, throw absolute shite against a wall and watch the incel bros go into a feeding frenzy.


To be fair, you can become one of the leading voices on the right pretty easily by doing that these days.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6873 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:24 am to
I have followed him for a long time, i think he's just anticipating what Ukraine will do.

It makes sense for Ukraine to offer the Russians in Ukraine a way out.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6873 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:27 am to
Who is this guy? From his Twitter profile: Ukrainian patriot. Advisor to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine. Founder of the Institute of the Future. Official enemy of Russian propaganda

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1672520308790525953
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Today, Ukraine has become a few steps closer to complete Victory over Russia and complete return of its territories, including Crimea.

A vile, but useful in this case monster - Prigozhin, raised an armed rebellion against Shoigu and Gerasimov, captured the headquarters of the Southern Military District of the Russian Federation, and now his advanced groups are heading towards Voronezh, and then towards Moscow.

In fact, this is a rebellion, not against war criminals Shoigu and Gerasimov, but against Putin himself, whose place Prigozhin has long wanted to take and create his own regime in Russia.

What are the true motives of Prigozhin that prompted him to launch an armed rebellion? I think that he, as a person who has known Putin personally for more than 30 years, treats him with contempt and sees that Putin, having unleashed a bloody massacre against Ukraine, for the sake of his illusory greatness, no longer controls the situation.

In addition, Prigozhin, who has already participated in military coups in Africa for 10 years, decided that if it was possible to seize power in Sudan or the Central African Republic, then it is possible to do it in Russia as well, which Putin has lowered during his 23 years of rule to the level of puppet tropical dictatorships .

An interesting question - what exactly was the reason for the mutiny? Yesterday at 7:30 p.m., Prigozhin published a video showing footage of a rocket attack on the rear camp of the "Wagner" military unit, as a result of which his fighters were allegedly killed.

I am convinced that this provocation was organized by Prigozhin himself, because there was no sense for Shoigu and Gerasimov to attack one of the dozens of military camps of the "Wagner" military group.

If they really wanted to solve their problem with the bloody clown, they would have to eliminate him himself, not attack some tent in the forest and give Prigozhin an excuse to start a riot.

Prigozhin had been preparing for this mutiny for a long time. It is for this reason that he has been raising his profile for the past six months by accusing Shoigu and Gerasimov of sabotage, and gaining the trust of the Russian military, who are not satisfied with the way the criminal war against Ukraine is being waged. It was for this reason that he opened Wagner centers in all subjects of the Russian Federation and recently toured half of Russia.

Prigozhin has crossed his Rubicon, and will not turn from his path until he is physically destroyed or he achieves his goals.

In my opinion, what are the further possible options for the development of the situation?

The first: Putin's power today and tomorrow will crumble like a house of cards. Prigozhin's troops will enter Moscow, seize the Kremlin, the Ministry of Defense and all power, and Prigozhin will appoint himself the military dictator of Russia, on the basis that Putin cannot perform his duties due to a sharp deterioration in his health.

The second: Putin will give an order to physically destroy Prigozhin, which has already been effectively declared an outlaw, with a blow from "Kinzhal" or "Iskander", as well as to destroy from the air the PMC convoys that are now heading from Russian South towards Moscow. I say from the air, since it is unlikely that any ground unit of the Russian army would dare to engage in open combat with the experienced and strictly disciplined mercenaries of the Wagner Army.

The third option: Putin will abandon the plan to physically destroy Prigozhin and try to come to an agreement with him, fulfilling his demands to remove Shoigu, Gerasimov and other ineffective war criminals, replacing them with Prigozhin's proteges, in order to increase military pressure on Ukraine and our allies.

This will still mean the actual transfer of power to the hands of Prigozhin and the departure of Putin from power, and in the future the possibility of being shot together with Kabayeva for treason, as the Ceausescu couple was shot in 1989, on the second day after the beginning of the uprising.

You can choose which of the three options is the most beneficial for Ukraine, or write your vision in the comments.

In my opinion, all three options that I mentioned above only strengthen Ukraine's position and bring our Victory closer.

If Prigozhin seizes power in the Kremlin, it will with a 99% probability lead to the collapse of Russia, which I have predicted since 24 February, 2022.

Kadyrov and the leaders of other national subjects of the federation in the Caucasus, Povolzhie (Volga region), and Siberia, know that Prigozhin considers all of them second-class people and will easily give an order to shoot and destroy any of them. Therefore, they will negotiate with the local commanders of the armed forces of the Russian Federation, the Russian Guards, the FSB, and declare their independence from Prigozhin.
An armed war of clans will begin for power, for resources, there will be such chaos and disorder, compared to which the year 1917 will seem like a fairy tale.

If, after all, Putin gives the order and Prigozhin is eliminated, then the Russian army, which was still somehow holding on due to the belief in some improvements, will completely lose the remnants of faith in the possibility of winning in the confrontation with us and our NATO allies.

Next will be our successful offensive, the total overthrow of the remnants of the Russian front, and the Russians and together with their henchmen will run and stop only after crossing our borders.

Onwards to Victory!
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 10:28 am
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36444 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:27 am to
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To be fair, you can become one of the leading voices on the right pretty easily by doing that these days.


I left out, be sure to call yourself a “patriot.”
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:28 am to
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1717 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:29 am to
starting to realize Prigozhin has had this planned for some time.

Maybe he wasnt low on munitions....maybe he was hoarding them for an event like this.
Posted by Dodd
Member since Oct 2003
21061 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:30 am to
I wonder if the CIA negotiated money or freedom or both with Wagner? They had to have involved more than Wagner in the deal to take Moscow
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:30 am to
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Maybe he wasnt low on munitions....maybe he was hoarding them for an event like this.


That’s a theory that’s being tossed around
Posted by TexasTiger33
Member since Feb 2022
13364 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:31 am to
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This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 7:01 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3726 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:32 am to
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great mini friends


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