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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:06 am to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:06 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 27 May 2024

The Russian MOD's main political directorate issued Politruk, a new journal for political instruction for the Armed Forces on 22 May 2024. The journal is intended to help political instructors in the Armed Forces in their political education of soldiers. An introductory article by Deputy Defence Minister Gen-Col Viktor Goremykin, who heads the Main Political Directorate of the Armed Forces, makes clear that the new journal draws heavily on the legacy of Soviet era military publications aimed at the political education of military personnel. A Main Political Directorate was set up in the MOD in 2018, as it was felt then that it was necessary to re-introduce political education into the Armed Forces.

Goremykin cites Stalin on the importance of political education of soldiers and the need to mortally hate the enemy. The journal emphasises that the enemy in Ukraine today is the same as the enemy the Soviet Union was fighting, namely the Nazis. A map of Ukraine published in the journal is used to support arguments, casting doubt on the authenticity of Ukrainian statehood, and hence to justify the invasion.

The magazine reflects the politicised use of history that has become a prominent feature of Russian educational policy in recent years, particularly since the invasion of Ukraine, and continues to peddle the false narratives that Russia has been using to influence its military personnel and population more generally.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:31 am to
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Yeah let’s just stare down the gun barrel for a country that will never have any significance to US citizens


It actually has significance to everyday life. Titanium, from Ukraine, is used as material of construction in power plants as tubes for steam condensers. It is also used in very corrosive chemical manufacturing processes.

But first you have to actually know something about businesses or want to replace all power generation with wind and solar.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:45 am to
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It actually has significance to everyday life. Titanium, from Ukraine


The company I work for bought a lot of steel from Ukraine (Azovstal plant) and had to scramble to find replacement steel for projects. At a higher price of course. The Russian invasion of Ukraine has been a major factor in inflation (fertilizer prices especially which impacts food). In reality it has impacted all Americans.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:14 am to
Interesting article in The Economist about European shell production.

The most important bit comes at the end:

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eu-wide annual shell production is projected to reach at least 1.4m by the end of 2024, up from around 500,000 a year ago.


With US shell production expected to reach 60k per month by the end of the year, with donations from other allies (UK, Canada, Australia, etc.), with Ukraine increasing domestic production, and with the ability to buy (via things such as the Czech initiative) from "neutral" countries, Ukraine can expect a supply of over 2.5 million artillery shells in 2025. Since Russia's production is estimated at 3.4 million shells, this would not put Ukraine at parity with Russia, but it wouldn't be that far off.

Why can't the EU ramp up production even faster and meet their stated goal of 2 million shells per year? It's a lack of explosives.

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Europe needs bushels of combustibles to reach its target of producing 2m shells a year by the end of 2025. Each artillery shell is crammed with 10.8kg of a high-explosive such as tnt, hmx or rdx. Additional propellant charges are also needed to hurl the rounds over tens of kilometres. Other munitions require even larger amounts: the high-explosive warhead on a Storm Shadow missile, for example, weighs around 450kg. The trouble is that explosive makers are unsure that production can be cranked up and fear that the quirks of the industry will hamper the surge that Ukraine needs to remain competitive on the battlefield.
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Take the explosives that go into the main charge of an artillery round or missile. Only a handful of companies still produce nato-standard high-energy materials. One is Chemring Nobel, which occupies a sprawling plant in Saetre, Norway. Another is France’s eurenco, which runs a similarly huge facility in Karlskoga, Sweden. Both firms’ order books have swelled since Russia’s invasion. eurenco’s is chock-full until 2030 and Chemring’s Saetre plant is running at full tilt. Tim Lawrenson of the International Institute for Strategic Studies, a think-tank, argues that turning mothballed plants back on will take time, given the need to retool and refurbish facilities.

Enticed by the asap subsidies, companies are pouring money into expanding capacity. But one industry insider notes that building a plant from scratch can take from three to seven years. A case in point: Rheinmetall, an ammunition provider, is building an explosives complex in Hungary; yet production will only start in 2027. A thicket of safety and environmental regulations can also impede expansion of capacity, says Christian Mölling of the German Council on Foreign Relations, another think-tank.

Explosive makers also face their own supply-side squeezes. One is an industry-wide shortage of skilled workers; grizzled engineers are retiring and few young people fancy handling explosives for a graduate job, says Mr Höcherl. Supplies of critical raw materials, like chemical precursors, are also under strain. Sourcing nitric acid, a crucial ingredient of tnt, hmx and rdx—and also of nitrocellulose, the basis of most military propellants—can be particularly challenging. At the moment, nitric acid production goes largely towards fertilisers. But as fertiliser producers suffer from higher energy costs, explosive makers have had to grapple with tightening supply. There are also supply-chain vulnerabilities: cotton linters, a type of fibre that is another key ingredient in nitrocellulose, are mostly imported from China.

Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:36 am to
Every time you bring up something on imports and exports you’re either wrong or intentionally trying to mislead people.

Ukraine isn’t even in the top 5 of countries we import titanium from.

We imported more from Russia in 2022 than we did Ukraine.

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In 2022, United States imported $830M in Titanium, becoming the 1st largest importer of Titanium in the world. At the same year, Titanium was the 436th most imported product in United States. United States imports Titanium primarily from: Japan ($285M), Germany ($84.4M), China ($77.6M), United Kingdom ($66.8M), and Russia ($63.3M).


LINK
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:37 am to
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The Russian invasion of Ukraine


Matters to Americans

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Ukraine


Doesn’t
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 12:32 pm to
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major factor in inflation (fertilizer prices especially which impacts food).


Fertilizer prices are less than half what they were a year ago
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 12:47 pm to
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One of Bidens only hopes to win is a huge foreign policy "victory".



Completely ignored the question.

How has Ukraine's negotiating position gotten weaker in the past two years? You're the one who said it, not me. Explain your point.

Or was that juat one your talking points you spouted off with no evidence or possible logical defense?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 1:07 pm to
[Insert "It's happening" gif]

LINK

Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief Syrsky:


Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 1:10 pm to
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Fertilizer prices are less than half what they were a year ago


Panic drove prices through the roof last year, so still high.

Also, nitrogen (ammonia) which would go to fertilizer production is diverted to propellant of munitions production.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 1:18 pm to
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How has Ukraine's negotiating position gotten weaker in the past two years?


I’ll play.

Failed counteroffensive

Russia is reliant on themselves and a few allies that are extremely unlikely to stop supporting them to continue fighting, while Ukraine is reliant mostly on the notoriously fickle US voter base continuing to support aid (it’s already a controversial issue, I doubt it improves over time).

Field verified Russian tactical adjustments that have increased their effectiveness.


The Israel conflict takes some focus (and dollars) away from Ukraine.


I don’t see it as some downward trend though, negotiating power in this conflict has been more like a chart for a volatile share price and has also swung Ukraines way a few times in the past two years
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 1:18 pm to
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Ukraine isn’t even in the top 5 of countries we import titanium from.


Only when you look up the metal itself and not the ore.

20% of the world's Ilmenite which is titanium ore.

Try harder and actually know shiite before you do an internet search that will give stupid shiit for dummies answers
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 1:25 pm to
Also the world's most major source of neon was Mariupol but Russia bombed that plant to nothing. 70% of global production is now Kaput. It's needed in chip production.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 1:28 pm to
Ukraine isn’t top 5 in ore either

Weird example since titanium is actually one of the most common minerals on earth. Its “rarity” is because it’s harder to process, which makes countries who produce the finished product more valuable than third world shitholes producing the ore
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 1:34 pm to
Reported as an ATACMS strike. The target is speculated to be a fuel depot:


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Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 1:46 pm to
NATO Parliamentary Assembly supports Ukraine's right to hit targets inside Russia using Western arms

by Elsa Court and The Kyiv Independent news desk May 27, 2024 6:47 PM

NATO allies should lift restrictions that prohibit Ukraine's use of Western-supplied weapons against military targets inside Russia, the NATO Parliamentary Assembly said in a declaration adopted on May 27.

NATO member states should "support Ukraine in its international right to defend itself by lifting some restrictions on the use of weapons provided by NATO allies to strike legitimate targets in Russia," the declaration said.

"Ukraine must be provided with all that it needs, as quickly as possible and for as long as it takes for it to win."

The declaration was approved by a majority of the 281 lawmakers in the NATO Parliamentary Assembly and received support from NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, who said that "the right to self-defense includes hitting legitimate targets outside Ukraine."

"Ukraine can only defend itself if it can attack Russia’s supply lines and Russian bases of operation," the NATO Parliamentary Assembly President Michal Szczerba said.
Posted by RuLSU
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 2:01 pm to
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NATO allies should lift restrictions that prohibit Ukraine's use of Western-supplied weapons against military targets inside Russia, the NATO Parliamentary Assembly said in a declaration adopted on May 27.

NATO member states should "support Ukraine in its international right to defend itself by lifting some restrictions on the use of weapons provided by NATO allies to strike legitimate targets in Russia," the declaration said.

"Ukraine must be provided with all that it needs, as quickly as possible and for as long as it takes for it to win."

The declaration was approved by a majority of the 281 lawmakers in the NATO Parliamentary Assembly and received support from NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, who said that "the right to self-defense includes hitting legitimate targets outside Ukraine."

"Ukraine can only defend itself if it can attack Russia’s supply lines and Russian bases of operation," the NATO Parliamentary Assembly President Michal Szczerba said.

Russia is massing another offensive group across the border. If Ukraine gets the green light, that army will get absolutely pounded before it even gets started.

It's utterly absurd that the US isn't allowing Ukraine to use its gear. I'm glad most other countries are lifting restrictions.
Posted by LeClerc
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 3:09 pm to
You’re right, Ukraine was sixth…Until she was invaded.

Wiki
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 3:13 pm to
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As North Korea develops longer-range missiles, will they start more directly threatening Japan and whoever else?

North Korea doesn’t have shite. I’m not sure Russia does. Dictatorships always pretend to have more than they do and think that they have more than they do.

Saddam Hussein was a classic example. He and his two sons died rather than give up weapons of mass destruction that they apparently didn’t even have! But Hussein THOUGHT he had them. Why? Because somewhere along the line he ordered a lackey to acquire them. Rather than be killed for failure, the lackey said, “Mission accomplished”, pointed to a stack of brand new turkey friars and said, “There is your WMD, boss.”

When North Korea decides it’s time to launch a real WMD that lackey is going to head for the DMZ, and the latest Kim Jung Whoever will have to content himself with disemboweling whomever brought him the badnews that not only do they not have WMD but there are no more turkeys in North Korea.
Posted by LeClerc
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 3:20 pm to
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