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Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:34 am to
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21192 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:34 am to
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People give the dnc and intelligence community wayyy too much credit sometimes

I love how they're bumbling morons one moment and evil mega geniuses the next, like there's ever any middle ground.
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1740 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:35 am to
There must be a glitch in the matrix.

A guy that was released from prison in 1990 started selling hot dogs.....and got in the grocery and restaurant business....then started a private military organization.....then became a billionaire....is currently leading a coup against Putin.

insane
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:36 am to
Trent Teleko Thread on Wagner logistics on this convoy.

Good stuff. This has been brewing and well planned it seems.
Posted by 03GeeTee
Oklahomastan
Member since Oct 2010
3426 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:36 am to
Guy is achieving the Russian dream.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
3382 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:38 am to
quote:

There must be a glitch in the matrix.

A guy that was released from prison in 1990 started selling hot dogs.....and got in the grocery and restaurant business....then started a private military organization.....then became a billionaire....is currently leading a coup against Putin.

insane


Yep

And don't forget, Uganda has offered to prop up Putin.

shite is absolutely bizzarro, I can't wait to see what happens next.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:39 am to
I am very curious if we had any hand in this.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5734 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:40 am to
Putin urgently leaves Moscow for bunker in Valdai – Ukrainian intelligence
Ukrainska Pravda, KATERYNA TYSHCHENKO — Saturday, 24 June 2023, 14:40

Ukrainian intelligence has information that Russian dictator Vladimir Putin has urgently left Moscow for his residence in Valdai, while Putin’s press secretary has denied this.

Source: high-ranking sources of UP in the Ukrainian special services; Dmitry Peskov, the Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation, in a comment to Russian state-controlled media outlet RIA Novosti; Secretariat of Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of Russia’s Security Council, in a comment to Kremlin-aligned news agency TASS

Quote from the source: "We already have information that Putin has left Moscow. He is being taken to Valdai."

Details: Ukrainian special services are also receiving information that there is panic in Moscow and preparations are being made to mine bridges in the Russian capital.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:40 am to
So about Belarus in all of this:

Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4756 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:41 am to
quote:

I am very curious if we had any hand in this.



For sure we did.
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1740 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:41 am to
decent commentary and updates on Mario Nawfal's twitter space.

Twitter
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42753 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:42 am to
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I would think that now is the time to strike, send the free Russia corps back into belogord, start pushing in the south, and deliver that hammer blow they have been preparing.


I ask why mess it up? Why attack when your enemy is shooting your enemy? I’d watch, but ready my troops to attack or take advantage of a retreat.
Posted by TexasTiger33
United States of America
Member since Feb 2022
16128 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:42 am to
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This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 7:01 pm
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
4168 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:47 am to
It’s hard to keep up. has he came out with anything against Putin? Or still the MOD?
This post was edited on 6/24/23 at 10:48 am
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38239 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:47 am to
Meanwhile, over on the totally not insane poliboard, prigozhin is Jewish and this is all a Jewish conspiracy. These are sick people.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74004 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:48 am to
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An interesting question - what exactly was the reason for the mutiny? Yesterday at 7:30 p.m., Prigozhin published a video showing footage of a rocket attack on the rear camp of the "Wagner" military unit, as a result of which his fighters were allegedly killed.

I am convinced that this provocation was organized by Prigozhin himself, because there was no sense for Shoigu and Gerasimov to attack one of the dozens of military camps of the "Wagner" military group.

If they really wanted to solve their problem with the bloody clown, they would have to eliminate him himself, not attack some tent in the forest and give Prigozhin an excuse to start a riot.


This explanation makes a lot of sense. Not saying I buy it entirely. It’s entirely possible the MoD launched the missile attack on the camp as a sort of warning to Wagner and it backfired spectacularly. But it’s just as, if not more, plausible Prigozhin staged this whole thing with the intent of staging a coup d’etat. He has been openly sowing discontent about the direction of the war for quite some time, now even going so far as to say the war was based on lies.

Who knows what to believe? We’ve entered the realm of the surreal at this point.

One major question I have is what will all of this mean for the war in Ukraine? If Prigozhin is successful, what will that look like? Will he oust Putin? I’d imagine he’d have to considering Putin has called his actions “treason.” What comes next if Prigozhin assumes power? I would imagine civil war of some sort will ensue, and even appears to have already started. Will Russia be forced to sue for peace in Ukraine? I don’t see how they could continue the war there while a civil war is raging inside their own borders.

Posted by 03GeeTee
Oklahomastan
Member since Oct 2010
3426 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:48 am to
quote:

It’s hard to keep up it has he came out with anything against Putin? Or still the MOD?


Still just the MOD
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61743 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Who is winning?


Why don’t you tell us.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8185 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:49 am to
Good points. Get ready, watch, and wait for the right moment. But put pressure where you can now.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8185 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:51 am to
Not true at this point.

After Putin's speech earlier today, Wagner said Putin chose the wrong side and there would be a new president soon.

https://t.me/apwagner/9130
quote:

Pip made the wrong choice. So much the worse for him. Soon we will have a new president.



Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8185 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 10:54 am to
There is nothing but good for Ukraine in this current situation.

If a really hot civil war breaks out (it's been very limited so far), then Russia will be forced to pull even more troops from Ukraine to respond.

At the least this takes Wagner off the battlefield, thats 25K of Russia's most effective fighting force.
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