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re: Duck migration makes no sense at all...

Posted on 1/26/22 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 7:31 pm to
If you hunt south of I 10


As the front moves in (wind shifts s/sw to w/nw/n—-hunt hard. Wind blows out the n/nw for more than 12 hours , might as well cook and drink. Wait for the shift back from the sw/s. After 6 hours of a good blow, birds can’t sit on the big water and end up moving back inside.


If we don’t get a lot of cold and ice by 12/10—whatever we have here is what we will all shoot at for the next 45 days absent some generational storm. Birds are settled in at that point and will fluctuate from inside to big water back and forth with the wind.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10507 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 7:49 pm to
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Birds are settled in at that point and will fluctuate from inside to big water back and forth with the wind.



Too a degree I think this is correct but ducks do some weird shite once they get down here, which is proven by following birds that wear transmitters. For example, in the Delta study on Pintails where a hen Pintail made multiple back to back day trips to feed in sheet water in NE LA but roosted in SW LA.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91194 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 8:53 pm to
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cold as giraffe pussy


Excellent malaphor
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81898 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 8:55 pm to
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If we don’t get a lot of cold and ice by 12/10
What made you choose this date?
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
16002 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 7:34 am to
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Cold as a witch's titty
In a brass bra.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10604 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 7:47 am to
Birds leave / migrate out when they NEED to leave. That generally means they leave when they’re out of food.

If food is still around they won’t head for warmer weather. Evidently, based on the lack of birds down here, they don’t need to come down this far for food.

That’s generally what’s been happening for years.
Posted by speckledawg
Somewhere Salty
Member since Nov 2016
3950 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 8:16 am to
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In a brass bra


Doing push-ups in the snow
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81898 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:02 am to
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Birds leave / migrate out when they NEED to leave. That generally means they leave when they’re out of food.

But obviously not all. I mean we get at least some early/warm weather ducks.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56642 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:14 am to
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I just don’t get it.
No one does. Duck hunters at an all time low, so much land off limits, so many changes in ag practices and coastal areas. But in 2020 La duck hunters averaged 10 ducks per waterfowl hunter. I dont see anything changing in regard to interest in duck hunting for the positive. Ducks that are here have too many resting spots and feeding spots. The Mississippi flyway still kills twice the number of ducks as any other flyway so I dont see this massive shift in migration that others talk about.

Areas of Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas that are great now have been great since the 80s for sure as people from here were going there and slaying them then as well. Those big greenhead numbers are nothing new.

I think the migration is still what it was. I see tons of ducks in the air, just as always, they just are heading somewhere in a hurry. I do believe the mallard numbers in the flyway are over estimated. They are just not here.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:56 am to
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with a source food source that wasn't covered in snow


If this is accurate then that would hold true for this year. It seems like it has only snowed twice this year so far. It is disappointing to have cold and no snow. The snow at least looks pretty unlike the brown scenery
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19765 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:42 pm to
First I would take into consideration that many times, Duck movement is predicated upon weather conditions and changes outside of our region. That makes it tough to evaluate exactly what’s going on

Sure, 40 years ago….20 years ago, we still had some semblance of cold fronts that effected large portions of a flyway, in turn creating movement over a period of several days.

You’re absolutely correct in there being little to no rhyme or reason why sucks act the way they do for the majority of the season these days.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5106 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:51 pm to
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First I would take into consideration that many times, Duck movement is predicated upon weather conditions and changes outside of our region. That makes it tough to evaluate exactly what’s going on Sure, 40 years ago….20 years ago, we still had some semblance of cold fronts that effected large portions of a flyway, in turn creating movement over a period of several days.


Most species migrate on photoperiods more than weather. Mallards are somewhat weather related
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81898 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 5:29 am to
I used to hunt a NWR that did not allow waterfowl hunting. I would start deer hunting the big brakes after Thanksgiving. The Mallards would show up in huge numbers all of a sudden, and it did not seem to be temperature related. I can recall sweating my balls off on the walk back there. As long as the brakes were wet, the ducks would come.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
2970 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 5:42 am to
I have touched the pu$$y of and Eskimo, shoved my foot up a well diggers arse and carressed the tit of a witch but never have I ever reached up and checked a giraffes pu$$y it ws just too high couldn’t reach.

I always thought ducks came down when it got cold but cold is not the only thing or the thing that really pushes them it’s feed and their inability to find unfrozen water. If their is feed or potholes half way down then no need to fly all the way down. Heck some of the gps ducks fly back and forth half way up the flyway during the season.
Posted by headedwest21
Member since Dec 2016
1109 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 6:13 am to
For all the guys that hunted in the 80s and the 3/30 days, how was the weather pattern then? What in y’all’s opinion made the hunting get better in the 90s? It was right before my hunting time started as kid so I have no recollection.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30842 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 6:54 am to
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For all the guys that hunted in the 80s and the 3/30 days, how was the weather pattern then? What in y’all’s opinion made the hunting get better in the 90s? It was right before my hunting time started as kid so I have no recollection.


pretty much the same, the hunting was great during the 3/30 days though, things started to crater late 90s early 2000s. and have sped up.


what changed was the end of the drought in the prairie pothole region nothing here. But our exponentially increasingly degraded marsh, increased mechanical traffic, land use practices have all played a part for us in LA.


This week i drove all the way up 71 and 1 I have never seen so few ducks on that route in january. but I have also never seen cane fields north of alexandria
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30842 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 6:58 am to
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Just cause it’s cold down here doesn’t mean it was cold enough up north to push birds down


90% of my best hunts in La it wasn't very cold here.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10507 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:29 am to
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Most species migrate on photoperiods more than weather. Mallards are somewhat weather related



Yep, mostly Mallards, Canada Geese, and oddly GW Teal (who are really more related to Mallards than the other teal) are weather related waterfowl. I think what we have seen is the evolution of the species that has adapted over time to take advantage of food sources like corn and refuges further up the flyway. If there is food and safety, why should they migrate further South. You have seen this take place with Snow Geese that once fed in the marsh of the LA/TX Gulf Coast that now are short-stopped in rice fields further North, Greater Canada Geese that used to do the same but now are almost extinct on the coast outside some that live on golf courses, and oddly Whitefronts that now follow the Snows and are making more and more stops out West to the TX Panhandle.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81898 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:36 am to
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and oddly GW Teal
These things...here, gone, back, gone, look there's a flock of 70!
Posted by Louie
Jonesboro, GA
Member since Jun 2006
725 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:47 am to
I have hunted in Louisiana my teen age and young adult years 1990’s though early 2000’s. Shot very little green, mostly greys and teal.

Began hunting North Texas and Southwest Oklahoma in the early 2000’s hard though 2012. Nothing but Green, and odd duck either wigeon, or Pennies…

Took a few years and tried hunting south Louisiana and shot teal, shovelers, greys, specks, and scaup.

Started back in Oklahoma and it’s all leased. Still do well, mainly wigeon, some red heads, greys, occasionally a Penny or green head. What I’ve noticed is in a state I never shot a green wing teal for years… I’ve killed multiple for the past 3 years. Never blue wing. Interesting that you say they travel like green… I can see the correlation. BTW the amount of agriculture there is why they never come south anymore.
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