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re: Duck migration makes no sense at all...
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:45 pm to Louie
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:45 pm to Louie
Corn production in the US by year:
Corn Production
I’m not saying this is the reason, just additional data.
Corn Production
I’m not saying this is the reason, just additional data.
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 4:25 pm to Louie
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I have hunted in Louisiana my teen age and young adult years 1990’s though early 2000’s. Shot very little green, mostly greys and teal.
When I was a kid hunting in CenLa in the the late 90s through the 2000s there were mallards everywhere. It was rare to not shoot at least a few green heads and/or some hens. Often getting your mallard limit quick. Always had tons of canvasbacks, greys, spoonies, woodies, teal, and pintails. But it would be hard to argue that the mallard numbers are the same as they were, here at least. They are still around but not like every few minutes a new group lighting in the decoys. People shoot widgeons but idk how common they are now or were back then.
I've always noticed during teal season we'd get a ton of blue wings. Then the teal we shoot during big duck season are always green wing. Maybe that is a thing, I have never looked into it, just always thought blue wing early then green wing later. But the few times I hunted further south in La they had blue wings all during big duck season.
ETA: maybe mallards are still down here as much and are just hiding out where they know they are safe, or they over estimate the number in the flyway, or combination of both.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 1/28/22 at 4:30 pm to BorrisMart
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I've always noticed during teal season we'd get a ton of blue wings. Then the teal we shoot during big duck season are always green wing. Maybe that is a thing, I have never looked into it, just always thought blue wing early then green wing later. But the few times I hunted further south in La they had blue wings all during big duck season.
BW teal hanging around all season is a “new” phenomenon. Used to if you had a mount of a fully plumed drake bw teal the odds were good that you shot it in April when they were coming back through Seeing how they are regularly killed all season even in NE LA should tell us that it’s not flooded corn up north and there are bigger things going on
Posted on 1/28/22 at 4:34 pm to Ron Cheramie
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BW teal hanging around all season is a “new” phenomenon. Used to if you had a mount of a fully plumed drake bw teal the odds were good that you shot it in April when they were coming back through Seeing how they are regularly killed all season even in NE LA should tell us that it’s not flooded corn up north and there are bigger things going on
Interesting. I just always noticed I never shot green wings on "teal hunts" and only blue wings. Then I have rarely locally shot a blue wing during big duck season, rather always GW's. Except for down south.
Shooting it in April? lol was this back before seasons were set?
Posted on 1/28/22 at 5:21 pm to BorrisMart
No bw teal are the first to migrate south and one of
The last to migrate back north They were in Mexico and South America during big duck season and would come back through after season. It was rare to see in during big duck season
Even more rare were whistling ducks and look at them now A buddy of mine shot a fulvous in mer rouge in the early 90s and it was the talk of the town
The last to migrate back north They were in Mexico and South America during big duck season and would come back through after season. It was rare to see in during big duck season
Even more rare were whistling ducks and look at them now A buddy of mine shot a fulvous in mer rouge in the early 90s and it was the talk of the town
Posted on 1/28/22 at 5:30 pm to Ron Cheramie
I’ve got a buddy who just moved to North Indiana from Louisiana. He is about a hundred miles from the Great Lakes. He just called me on his way home from wrk to tell me he sees more ducks up there than he ever saw in Louisiana. He said everything is frozen up except for the largest rivers but said he just saw about 20 ducks fly over him on his way home from wrk lol
I think I’m gonna plan a trip with him next season
I think I’m gonna plan a trip with him next season
Posted on 1/28/22 at 6:36 pm to Guntoter1
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He said everything is frozen up except for the largest rivers but said he just saw about 20 ducks fly over him on his way home from wrk lol I think I’m gonna plan a trip with him next season
Mallards are extremely hardy ducks and can withstand freezing temps for a long time as long as they have access to food. They have adapted to dry feeding in cut corn fields all day and roosting in open water (rivers) at night. As long as the snow doesn’t cover all their food source they will hang in there. We still get some mallards that are early migrators but a little cold front isn’t gonna bring them down anymore. You need snow cover to get them moving
Posted on 1/29/22 at 8:58 am to TheGhostOfBigLee
I was driving through SE Wyoming last Feb the north platte was dang near frozen over & I have never seen more ducks in my life.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 12:56 pm to Cracker
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I was driving through SE Wyoming last Feb the north platte was dang near frozen over & I have never seen more ducks in my life.
Part of me wants to move up north just for that, but as bad as La is I just don't know if I can leave it.
I could do Ark/Tx/Ms but leave the south... meh. Can always take trips to hunt I guess. Would be nice though to brush blinds for teal season and not be worried about cotton mouths and gators everywhere though.
Posted on 1/29/22 at 3:02 pm to BorrisMart
They should have moved on but nope I have a friend in great falls Montana and the Missouri would be frozen over and snow covered ground nope birds were still plenty
Posted on 1/29/22 at 3:34 pm to TheGhostOfBigLee
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This weekend it was cold as giraffe pussy
Doesn’t heat rise?
Posted on 1/29/22 at 6:50 pm to lotik
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Corn production in the US by year: Corn Production I’m not saying this is the reason, just additional data
It’s not the only but one of the main ones
Bunch of farmers in the Dakota drained potholes and other nesting grounds they could to plant corn and then add in the increase no till acres where waste grain sits on top of the ground instead of getting plowed under and you have a problem
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:10 pm to Midtiger farm
Last weekend big freeze nearly everything left and froze my azz off breaking ice for 2 ducks. Much better this weekend but still not stellar. Im thankful teal and spoonies still make it down lol....All she wrote bet there will be bunch of surface drive boys selling there rigs for cheap.. lol
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:35 pm to Midtiger farm
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It’s not the only but one of the main ones
Bunch of farmers in the Dakota drained potholes and other nesting grounds they could to plant corn and then add in the increase no till acres where waste grain sits on top of the ground instead of getting plowed under and you have a problem
Explain to me again like I'm from NYC about the no till acres and the effect it has? I get the farming every inch of land and draining and ruining potholes and nesting ground but I always hear about "no till practices" and I'm currently in an amateur deep dive into learning about farming and land management shite.
Also, yeah might be some boats for cheap after the season, wouldn't be a bad time to look but alot of the surface drive baws use those to fish too I bet.
This post was edited on 1/30/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 1/30/22 at 3:40 pm to MWP
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We have killed them on the actual front day when it pushes through. It is the post front day or 2 after that sucks for the most part.
This is also my experience in the marshes of SWLA. I’ll take a breezy 63 degree S wind day over a 30 degree blue bird after a front.
Fronts seem to move the ducks out.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 4:38 pm to BorrisMart
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Explain to me again like I'm from NYC about the no till acres and the effect it has? I get the farming every inch of land and draining and ruining potholes and nesting ground but I always hear about "no till practices" and I'm currently in an amateur deep dive into learning about farming and land management
Use to after harvest plow or other tillage tool was passed so it buried the waste grain
Now more and more ground is left alone and the next crop is just planted into last year’s stubble so grain sits on top all winter
Posted on 1/30/22 at 4:52 pm to Midtiger farm
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Use to after harvest plow or other tillage tool was passed so it buried the waste grain
Now more and more ground is left alone and the next crop is just planted into last year’s stubble so grain sits on top all winter
Gotcha. So that is easier for ducks to stay and eat? I figured it was something like that but I just wanted to find out for real just to know. Thanks.
Posted on 1/30/22 at 5:26 pm to Midtiger farm
Tillage has been around for an infinitesimally small portion of the MS flyway’s lifetime. That’s not an excuse that will earn any sympathy.
This post was edited on 1/30/22 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 1/30/22 at 5:28 pm to turkish
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Tillage has been around for an infinitesimally small portion of the MS flyway’s lifetime. That’s not an excuse that will earn any sympathy.
Well I would imagine they have always migrated with the Miss river as the explorers noted the sheer vast amount of ducks when they were exploring parts of Louisiana.
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