re: Would LSU match any offer Texas gives to Herman?

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I bet they start at 4-5 and then it will be a 'who will go higher' contest between the two schools.

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That's what I believe. It will come down to who values him more. The team that doesn't match will be due to their perception of his worth rather than lack of funds.

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$5.5 mil + $2.25 mil buyout = $7.75 mil for Herman. It's still a lot cheaper than Jimbo, $6 mil + $5 mil buyout = $11 mil to get Jimbo. It's no brain who is cheaper and with more upside potential. All out for Herman.

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Would the decision makers let $$ be the deciding factor?

For instance say Coach O goes 6-2. In negotiations with Herman and/or Jimbo it gets to 6 mil a year but Coach O will sign on for 3.5. Any chance this comes into play? I know the correct answer is it shouldn't but could this happen?

This money thing is blown out of proportion. Herman will get around Sumlin's price of 5 mill from either LSU or Texas if these are the only 2 high profile jobs opening this year.

That would put him in the club of 7. The top 5 highest paid coaches already have a championship and no way in hell is he getting more than 5.5 from anybody.

The problem is that the incentives Texas boosters can provide, are much more lucrative. The best thing to happen would be if they win 8-9 games with this young team. Which would keep him off the firing squad.


Seriously, if people actually looked at his roster, it's extremely young.

- On offense they have exactly two senior WR/TE, and exactly 1 senior OL on their ENTIRE 3 deep! (12 of the 15 are either some form of freshman or sophomore)
- They have a true freshman QB, and Foreman is only one of the 1-2 RB punch that can leave this year (I don't know if he will though).
- On defense 8 of their 11 starters are either some form of freshman or sophomore, and they have exactly one senior starter. - Their backups on defense have 5 of the 11 as seniors, and they barely have a 3rd string on defense. This is why I don't get why people don't just let him have the fourth year.

Next year barring injury or transfer/kicked out, Texas will bring back 10 on defense (that doesn't even include their nickel corner), and 8 starters or co-starters on offense including 4 OL, 2of3 top WRs, QB, and RB. They've showed immense progress on the offense, now they need to get the defense in order.

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if they go "Saban" level crazy, we aren't sniffing $10M/year

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Texas isn't going to pay Herman $10M a year. No one in their right mind would pay a mostly unproven coach that. This is not going to be about money, it's going to be Herman's choice about where he wants to coach. I guarantee you that he has already made up his mind after last week where he wants to coach next year.

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Can LSU meet or exceed texas' wallet? We are talking 7M - 10M easy.

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LSU SHOULDN'T match any offer by Texas that exceed $5.5 Mil.

I get it, the guy is a hot name in coaching right now. Yes, he could be the next Urban Meyer, but the fact is that he's only been a head coach for 1 1/2 season. Yes, he's had great success at a smaller program, even beaten some damn good coaches along the way. But he's still up and coming. You don't fork out that kind of money for a guy seeking his first major power 5 program gig. You're essentially setting him up to fail. If Texas goes and offers Herman 6, 7, or 8 mil, they can have him. If he comes in a shits the bed, he'll be out within 2 seasons. With a guy like Herman, you make his contract incentive heavy. Make the base around 5 and give him 1.5 in incentives. In that case, LSU is the job to take no matter which way you look at it. They're in a better position to win RIGHT NOW. Texas is a rebuilding process.

Now, if Texas throws the bank at him, just let him go. I get the love fest, i really do and i'd love to see him in purple and gold. But let's be a little realistic here.

Money only is not a good deciding factor. It's a combination of both coaching ability and his market worth. O may be worth $3 mil to sign him as hc but his resume is a failure and the risk of his failure is too much to take even though he might be a lot cheaper to retain as hc.

[link=(Texas has more money that's the truth. Would Herman go to a booster run program? )]LINK[/link]

NS came to a booster run program and changed the culture at Bama. I dont think Herman has the stones to do that. NS and Urbs are probably the only 2 that could do that.

Completely agree. OP did make me laugh a bit though with numbers like 7-10M. Give me a break. That's not happening.

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So your logic is Texas paid Charlie Strong $5 mil, hasn't seen any return on that so they should just go out and pay a less qualified guy $7 mil.

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No, my logic is that Texas has proven its new coaching salaries are not based on logic (Charlie makes $5 million because Sumlin does, no other reason) and therefore if you get in a pissing match with them they will go far beyond reason to prove that they are the best (read: richest) in their minds. They will call LSU's or anybody's bluff.

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Herman may be able to leverage offers against one another and convince someone to pay him a stupid amount of money, but what's the current success rate of hiring unproven coaches for $5 mil + ?

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That doesn't really matter. You make what you can get paid. People are completely wrong when they say "X coach shouldn't make more than X other coach." It's all what they can get paid the moment it's time to negotiate.

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LSU can offer Herman the same amount Miles was making and that would be a 50% raise for him.

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So you think if LSU offers the sub-Sumlin salary of $4.whatever million a year and Texas offers the $6 million+ they will be willing to offer after Charlie that Herman will take the lessor offer just because some people on a forum believe that is all he is worth?

That is ridiculous.

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Coaches' salaries can't keep exploding the way some in this thread think they will.

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Sure they can. SEC programs are set to make over $40 million a piece this year. At that rate we will see $10 million coaches soon.

A&M might be the one in the bidding war with Texas for Herman after they fire Sumlin for losing to Bama, Ole Miss and LSU.