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re: The 2 most reliable insiders are saying Franklin/Tucker & Tate is involved
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:19 am to Captain Crown
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:19 am to Captain Crown
quote:you think Saban was a culture fit in Tuscaloosa?
Franklin isn't a culture fit at all
Culture has ZERO to do with it. Hire the best coach, period.
Didn't we just get rid of a coach who was a perfect culture fit?
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Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:22 am to atltiger6487
Franklin fits the woodward mold of a hire pretty well
veteran coach, proven winner, he may win it all with better talent and resources but at minimum he's not going to burn the house down.
we will have to pay him a lot so we're married to him for a bit if that's the route we go.
veteran coach, proven winner, he may win it all with better talent and resources but at minimum he's not going to burn the house down.
we will have to pay him a lot so we're married to him for a bit if that's the route we go.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Cristobal rebuilt the lines at Oregon. That was their weakness with Chip and Helfrich. They dominated OSU up front, which is shocking.
...and lost to shitty Stanford
Cristobal is O reincarnated. Positional coach-recruiter without the coaching chops to coordinate one side of the ball.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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Cristobal is O reincarnated.
He's much better at this point and far more respected.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:26 am to BilJ
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Tate though is Scott’s boss, would lose a power struggle with Scott. Woodward and the folks that are paying for this buyout hold the cards here. Tate can be involved but he isn’t forcing shite
My concern, given the TD sources we have, is that it sounds like there are some boosters or other influential people that are interested in Tucker as well. For example, the wording of "names being thrown around" makes it sound to me like it's the boosters talking about it. I would hope at the end of the day they buy into Woodward like they should, and are ultimately deferential to the direction he wants to go.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Cristobal has the organization aspect over O tenfold though
game day coaching isn't the best
game day coaching isn't the best
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:28 am to Lou Pai
tuckers schedule is so back loaded though. Once the losses pile up, the shine goes away.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:29 am to Lou Pai
you do still have a segment of boosters that yearn for anything connected to Saban so that's probably why Tucker and Jimbo are getting such run
but you're making a similar mistake O just made, trying to recreate something you just can't. Chasing an impossible standard
but you're making a similar mistake O just made, trying to recreate something you just can't. Chasing an impossible standard
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:30 am to 1999
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tuckers schedule is so back loaded though. Once the losses pile up, the shine goes away.
I hate they are on a BYE this week.
Really looking forward to their finish now.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:31 am to beauchristopher
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think Frankin is a solid coach and what he did at Vandy is miraculous
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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IF wokeism is playing a part in this hire and IF we don't get the top shelf, why would we go with Tucker over Aranda?
Because Aranda is the wrong minority.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:35 am to Magician2
If tucker is hired whatever boosters we have left will be gone
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:38 am to KLSU
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Because Aranda is the wrong minority.
Tate could still spin it as the first nonwhite head coach
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:45 am to Magician2
I feel sorry for any minority coach we hire.
Everybody will assume the minority coach was hired to satisfy Tate's ego.
Franklin seems like a good guy---he has never won a conference has he?---but if he comes here and has a mediocre season everyone will say he was only hired because he was black and on and on. Tate would probably let him stay longer than he would a white guy and the fans would really be upset.
Tate saying he wanted to make a legacy hire was a stupid thing to say and now he has put any minority coach he picks in a bad spot starting out.
Woodward can blame any miscues on Tate I suppose.
Oh---would he pay Franklin the huge money it would take to get him away from Penn State??? Would he pay him just to get a black guy as much or more than he would a proven coach like Dabo?
Everybody will assume the minority coach was hired to satisfy Tate's ego.
Franklin seems like a good guy---he has never won a conference has he?---but if he comes here and has a mediocre season everyone will say he was only hired because he was black and on and on. Tate would probably let him stay longer than he would a white guy and the fans would really be upset.
Tate saying he wanted to make a legacy hire was a stupid thing to say and now he has put any minority coach he picks in a bad spot starting out.
Woodward can blame any miscues on Tate I suppose.
Oh---would he pay Franklin the huge money it would take to get him away from Penn State??? Would he pay him just to get a black guy as much or more than he would a proven coach like Dabo?
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 9:47 am
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:46 am to CP3forMVP
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Moscona was talking about one of the reasons this didn't happen last week was because the President and AD couldn't agree on the buyout. The President didn't want to pay it, and AD did.
As we all know, they are paying the buyout.
Just saying...in terms of Tate wanting to be involved. He can be involved all he wants, but that doesn't mean he's going to get what he wants
This makes me more concerned about Tate’s role in this, not less.
I was surprised the buyout would happen at all without him coming out against it, but it would make sense that he agreed to it as long as the replacement would be to his liking.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:46 am to LSU-MNCBABY
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If tucker is hired whatever boosters we have left will be gone
If Tucker is hired because everybody else said no, then that's one thing. If he's hired over better qualified candidates (including Franklin and Aranda), then that's another matter entirely.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:48 am to I B Freeman
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Tate saying he wanted to make a legacy hire
Link?
The things that are stated as fact on this board with no substantiation…
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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I wouldn't either, but he turned down the NFL to stay at ISU so I just can't see LSU competing with an NFL job.
I’m not really familiar with the situation. But it may be that he prefers the college scene and working with college players. IMO, they’re easier to influence and get to “buy in” than Pro-athletes. Ask Sagan.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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Plus he has history here and if he didn't jump for an NFL DC job, he's likely made his bed in college
Totally agree. Was convinced he was all in on a DC role, then he went to Waco.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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Aranda is a BIPOC
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