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If Orgeron goes 6-2/7-1 and LSU passes on him, he will head coach where?
Posted on 10/6/16 at 11:38 am
Posted on 10/6/16 at 11:38 am
Someone will hire him next year as a head coach.
He isn't just auditioning for the LSU job.
If Coach O gets an offer in mid-November and we don't have Herman or Fisher and don't know who else we can get and O beat Alabama.p, who has leverage then?
It might be O and not LSU.
He isn't just auditioning for the LSU job.
If Coach O gets an offer in mid-November and we don't have Herman or Fisher and don't know who else we can get and O beat Alabama.p, who has leverage then?
It might be O and not LSU.
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 11:46 am to AlaTiger
O will not have leverage on LSU. A mid major would hire him, if he wants the job.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 11:51 am to AlaTiger
He won't
Posted on 10/6/16 at 11:56 am to wildtigercat93
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A mid major would hire him, if he wants the job.
This is the thing that confounds me about all the Pro-O people. If he doesnt get hired here, no other big school in their right minds is going to hire him to be their HC. The market determines value. He's a DL coach for god's sake!
Posted on 10/6/16 at 12:04 pm to AlaTiger
He went 6-2 at USC and nobody wanted him. I doubt they would this time either. The guy is not in demand by anyone. Yet some Tiger fans are falling all over themselves to give him one of the top jobs in the nation. LSU is too elite a job to give to a guy that literally nobody else wants.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 12:04 pm to Hester Carries
I'm not pro-O. I'm talking about what could happen and the mindset LSU admin might have.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 12:10 pm to AlaTiger
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I'm not pro-O. I'm talking about what could happen and the mindset LSU admin might have.
Im just using this thread to talk about something ive been thinking. The fact that even the most ardent proponents (not you) for O getting the gig, would admit that if he doesnt he's at best going to a mid-major show you what they think of the LSU position.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:03 pm to AlaTiger
nobody hired him after he went 6-2 as interim at USC.
You do realize that doing well as an interim coach really just means you're able to keep the team emotionally healthy. But truth is, you're coaching somebody else's team.
If no other school hired him as HC after USC, why would they now?
If he really wants to be a HC, he needs to go get a job at a smaller school, kick arse, and then the bigger schools will come calling.
But you just can't give the HC job at an elite football school like LSU to a guy that went 3-21 in conference at his only HC gig. You just can't.
You do realize that doing well as an interim coach really just means you're able to keep the team emotionally healthy. But truth is, you're coaching somebody else's team.
If no other school hired him as HC after USC, why would they now?
If he really wants to be a HC, he needs to go get a job at a smaller school, kick arse, and then the bigger schools will come calling.
But you just can't give the HC job at an elite football school like LSU to a guy that went 3-21 in conference at his only HC gig. You just can't.
This post was edited on 10/6/16 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:11 pm to atltiger6487
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If he really wants to be a HC, he needs to go get a job at a smaller school, kick arse, and then the bigger schools will come calling.
But you just can't give the HC job at an elite football school like LSU to a guy that went 3-21 in conference at his only HC gig. You just can't.
Its really this simple.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:28 pm to SportTiger1
quote:Completely agree. However, if any school in this entire country would pull some shite like this, I'm afraid it's LSU.
But you just can't give the HC job at an elite football school like LSU to a guy that went 3-21 in conference at his only HC gig. You just can't.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:39 pm to AlaTiger
I had the chance to take a mid teir job last year and didn't. He wants to be in Louisiana. If he doesn't get the HC job I bet he campaigns to keep his dl job.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:54 pm to AlaTiger
I posted about this and made some comments about Herman 2 nights ago. I will post tonight.
Orgeron will not be the head coach in 2017 even if he wins the year out.
Orgeron will not be the head coach in 2017 even if he wins the year out.
This post was edited on 10/6/16 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:59 pm to AlaTiger
If O leaves in that scenario would it really be a downgrade to hand the keys to Aranda? LSU can get a coach with a better resume than Aranda right now (just like O)but if it came down to either: (a) O without Aranda or (b) Aranda without O, I'd vote for (b), hire the best OC I could find, let Aranda hire his DC and see if Pete Jenkins could stick around for a year or 2 as a position coach. Our success against Alabama will be determined by having Aranda just as much as Coach O.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 2:02 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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If Orgeron goes 6-2/7-1 and LSU passes on him, he will head coach where?
No one but some LSU fans want Coach O. He'll be a position coach somewhere else at best.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 3:36 pm to AlaTiger
i think he has limited options. He sounds awful and appears dumb as a rock. And the facial ticks when he is speaking in public. He may be a great assistant coach but I dont think anyone north of coonass land wants him as a HC. There is a reason USc did not offer him the job.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 3:42 pm to AlaTiger
Ole Miss?
Posted on 10/6/16 at 3:49 pm to atltiger6487
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But truth is, you're coaching somebody else's team.
truth. bebe even mentioned this himself the other day.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 4:44 pm to mrbroker
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He may be a great assistant coach but I dont think anyone north of coonass land wants him as a HC. There is a reason USc did not offer him the job.
Some people are great in their lane and only in that lane. Everyone that is a great assistant is not cut out to be the head guy. There are different skill sets involved.
Any staff that has Coach O on it is instantly a better coaching staff. Doesn't mean he's suited to be a HC. He has to prove it at some point, that means taking your own team and building it up, not someone else's. LSU is too big of a job for at best a speculative hire.
This post was edited on 10/6/16 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 10/6/16 at 4:54 pm to 0
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He wants to be in Louisiana.
Wants to be in Louisiana or isn't leaving Louisiana?
Posted on 10/6/16 at 4:55 pm to SportTiger1
It might be that simple in part. If Coach O were a coordinator instead of a recruiting and position coach he would get more serious looks from LSU and other major schools.
If he becomes a head coach at LSU or elsewhere he becomes very subject to the quality of his offensive, defensive, and special teams coordinators. That's true of almost all coaches for two of those three areas, but generally they can point to their area of expertise as a team strength that will win some games and please the fans.
Having to constantly replace bad hires for ineffectiveness and replace good hires who get head coaching opportunities is a serious drag on sustained team success. Being a great football mind on one side of the ball (like Spurrier, or Saban, or Stoops) IMO is one of the basic qualities LSU ought to weigh when hiring the next HC.
If he becomes a head coach at LSU or elsewhere he becomes very subject to the quality of his offensive, defensive, and special teams coordinators. That's true of almost all coaches for two of those three areas, but generally they can point to their area of expertise as a team strength that will win some games and please the fans.
Having to constantly replace bad hires for ineffectiveness and replace good hires who get head coaching opportunities is a serious drag on sustained team success. Being a great football mind on one side of the ball (like Spurrier, or Saban, or Stoops) IMO is one of the basic qualities LSU ought to weigh when hiring the next HC.
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