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re: How did Gulf Shores/Orange Beach get so pricy?
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:04 am to PistolPete45
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:04 am to PistolPete45
Idk what’s causing it but the prices are out of control. I stayed at a condo in Gulf Shores in June of 2020 for $300 a night. That same unit is $550 a night in June this year. A nearly 100% increase.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:30 am to Sput
No don't own one....Just showing that there are places to stay well below the OPs price point. We stayed there twice and it suited my family's needs at the time. Obviously, there are other much nicer places to stay but then you have to pay a premium which the OP was complaining about.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:04 am to dualed
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I stayed at a condo in Gulf Shores in June of 2020 for $300 a night. That same unit is $550 a night in June this year. A nearly 100% increase.
Bruh, that was peak Covid time....that price was likely cheap.
As said, they are out of control because demand is through the roof and real estate and the cost of ownership has increased dramatically. I'd expect next year prices to level out and maybe even decrease slightly.
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:32 am to baldona
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Given that, I don't think people are still 100% comfortable traveling to mexico as a whole so their demand is down I'm sure. I'd expect that to change soon, winter is the busy season in mexico/ carribean generally so I'd bet rates go up a ton by winter.
This. Lots of folks still aren't traveling outside of the US and aren't taking cruises. Demand is a lot higher for all the continental US travel locations in the summer now than pre-pandemic. All the National Park destinations are much pricier and harder to get as well.
No brainer for me. I'll go to Mexico for cheaper and be waited on instead of going to a condo where I still have to cook a good bit.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:11 am to dualed
The hurricane that hit the area 2-3 years ago really damaged a lot of the area. The next season I’d say capacity at most condos was 50-70% due to renovations being done. Then Covid hit and people quit traveling. So every company began charging more to recoup losses.
Our condo in peak summer used to rent for about $1500 for 4 nights including taxes and fees. Then it went up to $1800. Last summer it was $2100. This summer it’s $2500. And people keep paying it.
If you notice all hotels are more in major cities. Just recently I saw prices in Nashville and New Orleans for Marriott hotels were $400+ a night. Those same hotels used to always be $170-250 a night regularly.
Our condo in peak summer used to rent for about $1500 for 4 nights including taxes and fees. Then it went up to $1800. Last summer it was $2100. This summer it’s $2500. And people keep paying it.
If you notice all hotels are more in major cities. Just recently I saw prices in Nashville and New Orleans for Marriott hotels were $400+ a night. Those same hotels used to always be $170-250 a night regularly.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:20 am to PistolPete45
That’s nuts. I just booked flights for 2 and 8 nights in 4 star hotels for a London/paris trip that only came out to 3200$
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:22 am to jkylejohnson
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That’s nuts. I just booked flights for 2 and 8 nights in 4 star hotels for a London/paris trip that only came out to 3200$
Yep. We priced a 5 day trip to Punta Cana this fall last night and it’s considerably cheaper than a week on the Gulf Coast. We are hesitant to book though with the uncertainty with Covid and international restrictions.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:40 am to LaLadyinTx
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aren't taking cruises.
Time to put them folks back on the cruise ships. Flights to Mexico and the Caribbean look WAY different since the cruise industry shut down.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:32 am to jkylejohnson
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That’s nuts. I just booked flights for 2 and 8 nights in 4 star hotels for a London/paris trip that only came out to 3200$
When? Not this summmer....Flights are expensive as frick to Europe this summer in June and July. $1000+. You didn't book 8 nights at a London or Paris 4 star hotel for $1200 total, That's $150/ night. Certainly not anything remotely close to downtown. Now maybe its a 4 star on trip advisor or something, but its not a true 4 star hotel. Hell I doubt you could get a 2 star hotel for mid summer for that.
Come on guys, be honest with some of this BS.
If you are talking about in the winter or off season, then guess what....Gulf Shores is a lot cheaper also.
ETA: Sorry didn't mean to be as dickish. Given that, yes the gulf coast prices are high due to Covid. Prices are still high until the market proves they need to come down. Which they will start to come down quite a bit I'd expect over the next 6 months or so.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 10:47 am
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:25 pm to baldona
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When ?
New Years. Flying out dec 29th and back around the 6th or 7th. Doin New Year’s Eve in London and after a few days there gonna eurorail it to paris for a few days and then fly back from there. We did triangle flights that I booked thru Expedia. And that is flying out of my tiny regional airport in town.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:31 pm to baldona
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Baldona
Since you wanna call ppl liars.
And gulf shores should be cheaper. It sucks there and it’s in Alabama.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:16 pm to baldona
Damn, you may want to remove the giant dick from your arse.
As to the OP, seems like everything is higher, its just the Biden economy.
As to the OP, seems like everything is higher, its just the Biden economy.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:28 pm to Clark W Griswold
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Then Covid hit and people quit traveling. So every company began charging more to recoup losses.
I'm not sure if that's how it works. It's all about supply and demand not just that some rental agencies decided to jack up prices that summer and later on to make up for losses.
Once Alabama and Florida opened back up for business(May if I re-call), people flooded the beach areas.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 5/6/22 at 7:22 pm to notiger1997
Supply and demand. After Covid and Hurricane Sally people started to raise praises and people are paying them so they keep raising prices. Also, beach houses are more expensive and people are charging more. My home value went up 46% and taxes matched it in Baldwin County this year. I’m 10 miles North of the Beach. Insurance is also going insane much like Louisiana and Florida. But, the beaches and Condos are still at max capacity. If you don’t pay it, someone else will.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 5/7/22 at 5:03 am to Panny Crickets
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Flights to Mexico and the Caribbean look WAY different since the cruise industry shut down.
The cruise industry has been reopened for quite some time. The main difference is the vaccination requirement. That being said, cruise capacity is doing pretty well considering all the hoops they've been made to jump though.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:03 am to PistolPete45
quote:As a person who lives within 3.5 hours of drive time to the Panhandle and Alabama beaches, we don't bother with ever going there. 4 hour flight to Aruba and even closer to other Caribbean destinations. Price is almost the same, less crowded beach, less crowded restaurants, better scenery, much better food, and much better class of people. But hey, whatever floats your boat.
I priced it out and we wanted to stay at the Phoenix II and it was roughly $4400 with taxes and fees for end of July going into August. I just priced an all inclusive in Cancun with flights for 4 and it's just under $3500.
I haven't stayed at a beach condo since covid, is it just spillover from that causing inflated prices where demand just keeps going higher?
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:09 am to baldona
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but its not a true 4 star hotel
Europe needs a rating system for Americans
Posted on 5/9/22 at 6:34 am to greygoose
Meh, we live 4hrs from Perdido Key. Have a vacation home there (don’t rent it) but it’s really 4 hrs. A 4hr flight is getting there 1-2 hours early, I’m an hour from the airport then dealing with customs once I’m there. It’s an entire day of travel. I’ve been to Cabo, Cancun, Costa Rica, St Maarten, the Bahamas, Grand Cayman, and San Juan some more than once. God forbid you have one of those 1 hr bus/van rides to the resort after you land.
Orange Beach/Gulf Shores is super easy to get to for most of the southeast. You’re there in 1/2 day drive and it’s a fun/happy place to be. I grew up doing it and made some great memories. I prefer a little more quiet so we bought in Perdido Key and don’t visit OBA/GS in-season while we’re down there due to the crowds. But the class of people can be shite (or great) anywheres. You might feel ‘fancy’ cause your in Aruba but I’ve been around total trash in some fancy places down there.
Just like everything else, prices are high in OBA/GS and they’re still booked up. As long as there booking up prices won’t come down. But for the avg family with a couple kids OBA/GS can be a great vacation, making great memories.
Orange Beach/Gulf Shores is super easy to get to for most of the southeast. You’re there in 1/2 day drive and it’s a fun/happy place to be. I grew up doing it and made some great memories. I prefer a little more quiet so we bought in Perdido Key and don’t visit OBA/GS in-season while we’re down there due to the crowds. But the class of people can be shite (or great) anywheres. You might feel ‘fancy’ cause your in Aruba but I’ve been around total trash in some fancy places down there.
Just like everything else, prices are high in OBA/GS and they’re still booked up. As long as there booking up prices won’t come down. But for the avg family with a couple kids OBA/GS can be a great vacation, making great memories.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 10:57 am to Clark W Griswold
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Then Covid hit and people quit traveling. So every company began charging more to recoup losses.
That only works if people are willing to pay those prices.
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And people keep paying it.
Exactly.
Posted on 5/9/22 at 11:01 am to LSUfan4444
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The main difference is the vaccination requirement.
I'd be curious to see what percentage of this summer's condo renters, are not vaccinated?
This isn't mean to be political. I do think there is something to your post... You may have people from southern states (the ones that are a day's drive away from the beach as well as from cruise ports) who maybe in the past would take a cruise / travel internationally, that are instead this year, because they are not vaxxed, deciding to hit the gulf coast beaches.
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