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re: Gulf Coast Beach Condo rental rates

Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:53 am to
Posted by CharlieTiger
ATL
Member since Jun 2014
748 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 11:53 am to
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People hate cleaning fees. I don't know why it chaps his arse so bad, I was simply explaining that its a hell of a lot more than washing the sheets and running the dishes.


It's not that people hate cleaning fees, it's that it seems that more and more rentals are asking people to do more in that dept with a hefty cleaning fee on top of it. Sure, some people may, but those people are unreasonable to think that it doesn't cost anything to have a place cleaned before new guests arrive. I do think it may make more sense just to have the cleaning fee included in the total cost, but I guess it's pretty industry standard to break that out.

I've definitely passed on airbnb's that include a cleaning fee but ask more than the basic - strip the beds/towels in the tub, take the trash to the dumpster and start the dishwasher.

I typically rent off airbnb 3-4 times a year, so I look at lots of rentals on there yearly and I do see more and more additional asks from hosts about cleanup. I rent full houses almost exclusively, so I don't look at many condo's or smaller rentals, but it's definitely a more common occurrence than it used to be. I could see it going the other way in the near future given the pushback I've seen online about it.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1651 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 8:12 pm to
In May, we are paying ~$4200 for 1 week house on Navarre beach (Gulf front) for 10 adults - including fees. We find it on VRBO and then went directly to mgmt company. Cleaning fee was $300 of the $4200.

Stayed there last year as well for about the same price. The place is one floor on stilts with plenty of parking for several cars. It's an older place but is neat and tidy and feels like the beach cottages that I grew up with in the 70s so not very fancy but functional. Not so fancy you feel like you are walking on egg shells in the joint.

ETA - we are asked to put out the garbage, have run the dishwasher, and tidied it up.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 8:15 pm
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33918 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 10:16 am to
Dishwasher and garbage are standards and acceptable. A management company should have their own supply of sheets and towels to do a swap and wash off site.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115720 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 10:19 am to
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12654 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 11:45 am to
Ask Taylor Swift
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72004 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 11:54 am to
Could you leave more than 1 roll of cheap paper towels? Maybe splurge for Downey? How about upgrading to 2 ply TP? Maybe some salt and pepper, too.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33918 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 12:40 pm to
That is usually supplied by the management company
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20432 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 3:31 pm to
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Could you leave more than 1 roll of cheap paper towels? Maybe splurge for Downey? How about upgrading to 2 ply TP? Maybe some salt and pepper, too.


quote:

Downey


I'll be happy to leave you Downy, I'm just not sure it is what you think it is.

FWIW I use Cottonelle in my rental. I leave one. Why 1 you ask? Because its a starter. I try to book longer stays 5-7 days, I only try to supply enough to start the stay. I've left more in the past, 2 or even 3 per bathroom. If you have a 2-3 bathroom for 8-10 people 3 is not nearly enough. So then guess what, people don't think its a starter and get even more pissy when they run out on Tuesday morning after they already went to the grocery store and don't want to go back.

If I had a small flat in the city where2-4 people stay 2-3 nights and generally don't go to the store, I'd certainly consider leaving plenty.

Again, amenities aren't cheap. TP is 42 cents a roll or so. You add up everything I supply and its $40-50 for a 3 bedroom just for the shampoos, tp, etc.

I'm against asking a ton from guests. But I'll also explain why its done. People leave entire fridges packed with food. They leave sand everywhere. Chocolate and candy in furniture. etc.

If it takes lets say 3 hours to clean to just make beds, put clean dishes away, sanitize, mop, sweep, vacuum, etc. Then the amount of time it takes to clean up after someone that's gross, can be up to double. If its a cleaning person making $30-50/ hour to clean once a week, then that is difficult to budget.

I'll tell you, the people that complain about cleaning fees and cleaning duties are gross.

You know who doesn't complain about cleaning, is clean people. You know why? They do it already. So they don't care.

So if you want to complain about it, honestly most would rather you stay elsewhere. The chocoloate, the candy your kids leave in the couch, the markers your kids draw on the walls with you let them do it when you were 6 beers in on vacation, that stuff beats up and costs the owners a ton of time and money.

I have 3 young kids myself, so I get it.

All I'm trying to do, is offer a perspective from the other side.


Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72004 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:32 pm to
I have two BnBs, one at the beach and the other in a huge bachelor/bachelorette city. I understand
Posted by bayouteche
The Beaches of Wham
Member since Nov 2012
1139 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:43 pm to
Shhhhh baw.

If word gets out, they’ll raise the price!
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2740 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:51 am to
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3 bedrooms for 3500 to 4000 per week including fees in Destin.


More like $6-8k for a beachfront 3BR in destin that isn't around the poors.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5759 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:02 am to
Which house are you renting and who did you get it from? Just curious to compare with our usual. Thanks
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1651 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:43 pm to
Dodges Dunes through Mermaid Mansions
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
1936 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:11 am to
That’s awesome. I can rarely find flights for the 5 of us from ATL or Nashville for less than $800. It’s usually $1,000 or more.
Posted by JTBrett
Member since Feb 2023
56 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:47 pm to
I've written the gulf coast off for the most part as well. It truly is cheaper for family of 4 to go to the Caribbean for a week, which we've been doing for last few years.

Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33918 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 1:39 pm to
It is cheaper for me to plan a trip with my gf to Honduras right now
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95028 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:25 am to
Me and my kids are doing an island get away to Haiti. They are actually PAYING us to go.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
5985 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:24 am to
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All the owners jacked their rates in the last 4-5 years.


After Hurricane Michael, our building's insurance went up by a crap ton.
Little things like beach chair rentals doubled (i.e. the amenities for renters that are included with a room)
It's all nuts.
Posted by DownSouthTiger
downsouth
Member since Jan 2005
2550 posts
Posted on 4/25/24 at 11:54 am to
Yes we do the same thing. Flights and all still cheaper than booking the condo on Gulf Coast.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:22 pm to
I stopped going to Florida gulf coast and started going to cancun, cozumel and isla mujeres. It's cheaper, I can get there quicker. The water is better and I can get cheap accommodations.
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