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re: World Cup Daily Thread - Thurs., July 2
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:27 pm to rt3
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:27 pm to rt3
They have the quickest replays with amazing up close angles for every other play throughout the game
But for this play, they can’t seem to get any of the millions of cameras to have a good angle??
Same with the potential handball a couple minutes earlier. Not a replay to be had on a potential huge play. Doesn’t make sense….
But for this play, they can’t seem to get any of the millions of cameras to have a good angle??
Same with the potential handball a couple minutes earlier. Not a replay to be had on a potential huge play. Doesn’t make sense….
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 8:29 pm
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:27 pm to rt3
We need to put chips in these players heads to be 100% sure
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:27 pm to AwesomeSauce
Fox isn't showing the replay for obvious reasons.
Did the video show a touch of the hair? If so, fine by a wisp of hair it's off.
There's no freaking way a sensor can detect a hair touch. I don't believe it.
Did the video show a touch of the hair? If so, fine by a wisp of hair it's off.
There's no freaking way a sensor can detect a hair touch. I don't believe it.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:28 pm to theballguy
It comes down to: nobody on the field signlaed offsides. The booth should not have signaled a review.
VAR should be used to correct a ref's call, not officiate the game away from the pitch.
If a ref gtives a card, and the VAR sees that it was a flop instead: then you signal a review.
If a ref calls offsides, but it appears to be on: signal a review.
But this officiating the game from the booth is bullshite.
If you want to implement that aspect, then install coaching challenges. Just like they need to go back to in Football, instead of this concept of reviewing every play.
Make it a risk to use the VAR.
VAR should be used to correct a ref's call, not officiate the game away from the pitch.
If a ref gtives a card, and the VAR sees that it was a flop instead: then you signal a review.
If a ref calls offsides, but it appears to be on: signal a review.
But this officiating the game from the booth is bullshite.
If you want to implement that aspect, then install coaching challenges. Just like they need to go back to in Football, instead of this concept of reviewing every play.
Make it a risk to use the VAR.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:28 pm to Floyd Dawg
quote:
The ball registered both touches
Is there a video of the graph showing this? I didn't see it.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:30 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:31 pm to ShoughTFU
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:31 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
Fox isn't showing the replay for obvious reasons.
Did the video show a touch of the hair? If so, fine by a wisp of hair it's off.
There's no freaking way a sensor can detect a hair touch. I don't believe it.
Watching on Telemundo.
They showed the best angle of it: from behind.
The ball never touched the croatian player, only glanced off the top of the Portuguese player's head as it went to the ground.
The Croatian attacker was onside when the ball was kicked, he was the first Croatian player to touch the ball.
They got it wrong. But you really can't tell unless you see that angle from behind the goal.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:32 pm to magildachunks
quote:This might be my favorite philosophical nonsense of the tournament so far
VAR should be used to correct a ref's call, not officiate the game away from the pitch.
What the frick was that decision if not correcting the referees’ mistake?
VAR isn’t even the decision-making entity. Authority still lies with the referee
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:32 pm to KosmoCramer
I'm watching Telemundo broadcast while traveling. No touch was shown other than the graph that was supposedly synced showing a spike. The problem is there is just the sole spike in the replay. Two touches, then two spikes, or at least that would seem to be the case.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:32 pm to magildachunks
quote:
They got it wrong. But you really can't tell unless you see that angle from behind the goal.
That was the best angle. Fox isn't showing it.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:34 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:
I'm watching Telemundo broadcast while traveling. No touch was shown other than the graph that was supposedly synced showing a spike. The problem is there is just the sole spike in the replay. Two touches, then two spikes, or at least that would seem to be the case.
And the sole touch would be....wait for it...the portuguese defenders head.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:36 pm to Floyd Dawg
My problem with these soccer rules are that the infractions never seem to actually advantage the scorer. I’ve have watched a frick ton of soccer the last couple weeks and have yet to see an offside call and say oh wow yea he definitely got a head start there.
A few days ago I was watching a game and they called offsides because a tip of a shoe was offside. It gave the scorer 0 advantage.
Yesterday one was called on the US I’m sure most of you remember. He was slightly more offsides, but he received the ball, kicked it around for a few seconds then shot. Being offside had nothing to do with the outcome.
Just now the guy may have technically touched it with a strand of hair. Clear shot of him not affecting trajectory at all. Nothing to do with the outcome.
A few days ago I was watching a game and they called offsides because a tip of a shoe was offside. It gave the scorer 0 advantage.
Yesterday one was called on the US I’m sure most of you remember. He was slightly more offsides, but he received the ball, kicked it around for a few seconds then shot. Being offside had nothing to do with the outcome.
Just now the guy may have technically touched it with a strand of hair. Clear shot of him not affecting trajectory at all. Nothing to do with the outcome.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:37 pm to HagaDaga
quote:
the rules guy said that that touch doesn’t reset it cause he wasn’t making a play on the ball when it hit his head.
He was trying to head the ball back out. It was just a shitty touch.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:38 pm to Swamp Frog x
Ok rewatched and there is the slightest of touches. But it begs the question again:
Do they rule this off in Azteca stadium against Mexico?
Do they rule this off in Azteca stadium against Mexico?
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:38 pm to Swamp Frog x
quote:
Just now the guy may have technically touched it with a strand of hair. Clear shot of him not affecting trajectory at all. Nothing to do with the outcome.
yeah. I've watched for 20+ years and I've never seen a guy's hair touching the ball reset the offsides position. He was onside when the cross was made, none of his teammates made a touch on the ball (you can't pass with your hair).
I don't understand how VAR can overturn that.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:39 pm to Swamp Frog x
quote:An attacker can be 1-3 feet off and depending on his body positioning/contortion at the time not gain any actual advantage
I’ve have watched a frick ton of soccer the last couple weeks and have yet to see an offside call and say oh wow yea he definitely got a head start there.
You still have to settle on an objective rule
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:41 pm to St Augustine
I can agree with that, but that was why that touch didn’t count to counter the offside. Just saying what the rules announcer said the reason was.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:42 pm to LongHornHandy
I know that. I was posting as that guy scored. None of us actually know how much time was left. The Croatian goal was scored after the 10 mins of extra time.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:43 pm to RemouladeSawce
quote:
This might be my favorite philosophical nonsense of the tournament so far
What the frick was that decision if not correcting the referees’ mistake?
VAR isn’t even the decision-making entity. Authority still lies with the referee
I'm not just including this call.
I'm also talking about the German goal called back (although I did enjoy that), the Portugal PK, Balogun's red card, etc.
Is the purpose of VAR to be exactly like what Instant Replay has become? Review every score?
That's bullshite and it hurts the game. If a coach feels like it needs to be reviewed, then let him take a risk and use a challenge. Give him a limited amount. If he wastes them, and then he has a legit challenge at the end, too bad.
This goes for both soccer and football. Instant replay has ruined the fun and excitement of the games.
Oh, the ref ruled a completed catch? Don't worry, the guys in birmingham will stop the game to take a look at it. Did that get called a TD? Not yet. We haven't decided if it's legit or not.
It's getting tiresome. I'd rather go back to the days of just accepting the call on the field.
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