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re: Zelensky ordered assassination of Russian Major General Yaroslava Moskalik
Posted on 4/25/25 at 3:42 pm to Barstools
Posted on 4/25/25 at 3:42 pm to Barstools
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That's not true, it's quite simple. Stop trying to join NATO and going against their word. Everyone want to blame Putin for going against his word but ignores Ukraine going against theirs and provoking Russia? Look, there is no outcome in this where Ukriane emerges the winner. That's why they have to cut their losses now and recognize they will never be in NATO. That is their only way forward without losing their entire nation. They will have no men left, they aren't winning a war of attrition against Russia, even with our current help.
It’s anything but simple. It’s impossible choices.
They had nukes. That was their protection. Got rid of them because Russia promised to recognize their sovereignty. That was a lie. Putin has PROVEN his real intentions TWICE already.
Ukraine clearly believes that Without nukes, they will lose their entire nation anyway.
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 4:07 pm to Harry Boutte
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Also I thought we all generally agreed that self-defense was a fundamental right of individuals and nations?
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Yeah, and isn't crossing an international border without proper documentation illegal?
Are you referring to Russia violating Ukraine’s borders starting in 2014? If so, I definitely agree.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 4:08 pm to John Barron
quote:Oh no! Not a general. Only 18 year old boys (and Ukrainian apartment dwellers)are supposed to die in war.
Zelensky and the globalists are beyond sick. Can you imagine if Russia started Assassinating our Generals on US soil because they didn't want the War to end.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 4:23 pm to Buryl
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Are you referring to Russia violating Ukraine’s borders starting in 2014? If so, I definitely agree.
Yes, I was sort of piling on to your point.
I was just rhetorically asking why aren't all the people screaming for the illegals to leave our country also screaming for the illegals to leave Ukraine.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 5:08 pm to AGGIES
You're over thinking this. It's not about who is right or wrong. He's lost an entire generation of men. He's not going to win. He's lucky to lose only what he has. His only hope of a country after this is to make a deal now. Not draw it out.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 5:31 pm to John Barron
Ukraine really, really, does not want a Peace Deal.
Trump (and us) should now walk away, wishing Ukraine and our perpetual dependents (not our adult children, but the Europeans) the best of luck.
If Europe wants a war and apparently, they do, they should immediately implement the massive socio-economic changes required to live (and fight) without Uncle Sugar.
Waiting for people to chime in with: "But, they're our friends and are really nice people." Anti-democratic National Security welfare cheats and smugly arrogant blowhards. Time to throw the deadweight over the side.
Trump (and us) should now walk away, wishing Ukraine and our perpetual dependents (not our adult children, but the Europeans) the best of luck.
If Europe wants a war and apparently, they do, they should immediately implement the massive socio-economic changes required to live (and fight) without Uncle Sugar.
Waiting for people to chime in with: "But, they're our friends and are really nice people." Anti-democratic National Security welfare cheats and smugly arrogant blowhards. Time to throw the deadweight over the side.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 5:35 pm to Perfect Circle
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Ukraine really, really, does not want a Peace Deal.
Why does everybody start with that?
The facts are:
quote:and
Putin really, really, does not want a Peace Deal.
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Ukraine really, really, does not want to give up their sovereignty.
Why is this so hard for some people to acknowledge?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 5:42 pm to Harry Boutte
Because they can’t win. They need to surrender to save what they have left
Posted on 4/25/25 at 5:52 pm to djsdawg
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Because they can’t win.
Vietnam fought off the Japanese, the French, the Americans and the Chinese over the course of 30 years before gaining their independence. All of those countries were WAY more powerful than Vietnam.
Hell, Washington fought for over 8 years against a global superpower, losing most of his battles, before finally achieving independence - with the help of another global superpower.
The Soviet Union was at war in Afghanistan for 10 years before finally deciding they couldn't take it anymore.
I bet you've referred to the French as "surrender monkeys" too, haven't you?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:05 pm to Harry Boutte
Tyranny central in Ukraine. Too much at stake for them to give up now. besides the previous administration, there are other countries that need to have their money laundered. 
Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:15 pm to Perfect Circle
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Tyranny central in Ukraine.
That the projection is so consistent implies that it's somehow being directed.
You could just as easily have said:
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Tyranny central in Russia.
But you didn't for some 'unknown' reason.
Ukraine wants to join the EU even with its stricter anti-corruption requirements. Putin wants them in his EEAU, corrupt and all so that he may control them through corruption and tyranny.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:15 pm to John Barron
Z get hisself a General?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:04 pm to John Barron
Over the past years, countless American journalists have embedded with Zelensky’s military. On the Russian side, there’s only one: Patrick Lancaster.
Patrick Lancaster From the Frontlines of Ukraine/Russia War: Kamikaze Drones & Attacks on Christians
0:00 Introduction
1:15 The War Started Much Earlier Than You Think
5:07 The Ukrainian Attacks on the Hometown of Lancaster’s Wife
11:52 It All Changed 3 Years Ago
16:47 Kamikaze Attack Drones
23:03 Who’s Winning?
24:52 How Many People Have Died in this War?
33:59 Russia’s Attempt to House Victims of War
37:26 Ukraine’s War on Christianity
38:59 Reports of North Korean Soldiers on the Ground
39:25 How Many American Journalists Are Covering Russia’s Perspective?
45:45 The Lies of Corporate Media
48:02 Ukraine’s Targeting of Lancaster
52:10 How Many Americans Have Been Killed in the War?
56:33 When Will the War End?
1:01:01 American Weapons Being Sold on the Black Market
1:02:32 Why Are Americans Supporting the War?
Patrick Lancaster From the Frontlines of Ukraine/Russia War: Kamikaze Drones & Attacks on Christians
0:00 Introduction
1:15 The War Started Much Earlier Than You Think
5:07 The Ukrainian Attacks on the Hometown of Lancaster’s Wife
11:52 It All Changed 3 Years Ago
16:47 Kamikaze Attack Drones
23:03 Who’s Winning?
24:52 How Many People Have Died in this War?
33:59 Russia’s Attempt to House Victims of War
37:26 Ukraine’s War on Christianity
38:59 Reports of North Korean Soldiers on the Ground
39:25 How Many American Journalists Are Covering Russia’s Perspective?
45:45 The Lies of Corporate Media
48:02 Ukraine’s Targeting of Lancaster
52:10 How Many Americans Have Been Killed in the War?
56:33 When Will the War End?
1:01:01 American Weapons Being Sold on the Black Market
1:02:32 Why Are Americans Supporting the War?
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:06 pm to John Barron
Let them kill each other.....these 2 bozos will never make an agreement!
Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:28 pm to John Barron
It's War.
You kill the enemy where you can
You kill the enemy where you can
Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:29 pm to John Barron
I know everyone here likes to dump on Ukraine and gargle Putin's testicles, but this dude is in military uniform directing military operations. Regardless of what anyone thinks of the war, he's a legitimate target.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:32 pm to Bard
I agree. We need to completely step away from that war. It is a war between two countries. Neither one is in NATO and requires our obligation to help. Let them do war things in war.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:33 pm to John Barron
"Zelensky ordered assassination" The actor did no such thing
The actor did no such thing Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:44 pm to DreauxB2015
US simply needs to tell Ukraine and Europeans that US financial support will be reduced by 10% per month starting with cash to run Ukraines govt. and CIA war planning support. The war mongering folks will squeal in month 3
Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:59 pm to LSURussian
How would one know if Russia was intentionally targeting civilians? Missiles do weird things once they get shot at and hit. Good God we splattered entire cities to the ground in WW2. Is war different now? Or is war. War? Ukraine shelled over 14,000 Russians to death in the Donbass before this war even started and one of the reasons for it.
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