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re: Your thoughts on Trump n Co enriching themselves while in office?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:00 pm to idlewatcher
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:00 pm to idlewatcher
Remember when Jimmy Carter placed his family's peanut warehouse and farming interests into a trust while in office to avoid conflicts of interest???
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:09 pm to idlewatcher
Amazing how democrats ignore Hillary, Pedo Joey and Pelosi obtaining fortunes without ever having a job outside of government. No morals.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:14 pm to bluestem75
quote:This +1000
The Clintons expanded their wealth by 9000x. Obama added 5300x.
Where are the NY Times reports on those - or Pelosi, or Bernie, or .... ??
As Oldmisser said (D)ifferent
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:18 pm to idlewatcher
If illegal, find evidence of crime, prosecute and convict with the most harsh of penalties available.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:21 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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Case in point, dismantling USAID goes against your position that he "has BECOME the Deep State."
No, it doesn't go against it at all.
Being part of the "Deep State" means a whole lot more than whether or not someone's policies support or oppose globalism.
As is typical of Trump—specifically because he is a populist with no guiding principles that inform his decisions—his words and actions are mixed, even with regard to globalism. Yes, some of his actions conform to a reasonable definition of an "America First" agenda, but many don't. See below:
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Donald Trump's "America First" agenda is framed as an explicit rejection of globalism, yet critics and economists argue his policies often foster a different, localized form of global integration or disproportionately burden American consumers.
This paradox highlights several primary tensions between his rhetoric and the administration's actions:
Trade Wars vs. Supply Chain Reality: While Trump has implemented aggressive border taxes—such as a 10% global tariff and steep duties on Chinese and European goods—critics argue this approach does not end globalization; it merely reshuffles it.
Many U.S. companies remain dependent on international supply chains and international consumer markets, meaning global trade continues, albeit at higher costs that are typically absorbed by American consumers and businesses.
Tariffs and "Uberglobalism": Some international economists, such as those analyzing trade in recent years, argue that the chaotic use of tariffs and bilateral negotiations forces countries to cut ad-hoc, localized deals rather than participating in an open global market.
By using the U.S. market's leverage on a global scale, the administration's aggressive trade policies are sometimes described as a new, aggressive form of economic interventionism rather than isolationism.
Corporate Deregulation: The administration’s trade and regulatory agendas heavily target digital regulations, privacy laws, and competition rules across foreign markets, often at the direct behest of major U.S. multinational tech companies.
Critics argue that supporting the dominance of these massive, globally integrated corporations contradicts the populist, anti-elite framing of his anti-globalism rhetoric.
Not to mention, kidnapping the president of a sovereign foreign nation, repeatedly promising to seize Greenland, and attacking Iran are literally the opposite of isolationism.
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They don't like him because he disrupts their order.
Yes, I said that in what you quoted above. But the flaw in that reasoning is the assumption that because they don't like him because he disrupts their order, he must be standing up for the American people.
That doesn't necessarily follow at all.
They could not like him for disrupting their order for any one of several motivations.
Given his deliberate enriching of himself by way of manipulation of circumstances over which he has power as POTUS (and that's a fact, not an opinion, at least with regard to bitcoins), the facts fit an explanation that has to do with a personal motivation.
He just doesn't play well with others.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:48 pm to wackatimesthree
Nice word salad that is lacking a cohesive thought. You are all over the map and basically said nothing.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:51 pm to idlewatcher
These responses make you level headed knuckleheads come across as straight retarded.
Call a spade a mf’ing spade you pussies.
Call a spade a mf’ing spade you pussies.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:56 pm to FLTech
Well, maybe we didn’t expect shady investments by the Saudis to enrich the family. And then there’s the manipulation of the crypto market and investing in companies whose dealings have been aided by the government…
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:57 pm to idlewatcher
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:02 pm to idlewatcher
It looks shitty.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:02 pm to idlewatcher
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Your thoughts on Trump n Co enriching themselves while in office?
It's bullshite for him and every single member on Congress. Ban individual stock trading now.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:15 pm to idlewatcher
If it’s legal, good for them.
I hope I continue to build wealth too.
If that makes you angry, you need to improve yourself and get away from marxism.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:22 pm to idlewatcher
can you name a president of recent times that has not benefited? Obama went from $100k to $10mil before he left office.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:42 pm to idlewatcher
Selling presidential pardons is pretty gross.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 1:47 pm to idlewatcher
I could tell you that I'm upset, but that doesn't do any good. I could also tell you "Well it's politics," or "Democrats do it too," but that also passes the buck.
At the end of the day, people who seek to enrich themselves by skirting/breaking the rules, are always going to do that. It's not a left or right thing.
People who don't care and want someone else to pay their way, are going to find a way to do that. This is also not a left or right thing.
And people that follow the rules, are always going to get taken advantage of. Always. This is also not a left or right thing.
Most tax payers do fit into that last bucket, or they lack the power to do #1, and lack the laziness/have too much self worth to become number 2. And it's group 3 that powers both. They will always sacrifice and work, no matter what Groups 1 and 2 take from them.
There are always outliers, People from Group 1 that are actually honorable and follow the rules and somehow find success without cheating the system. And there are those in Group 2 that actually lack the ability to get out of it. Even if you are successful, and in Group 3, you typically will have a long road to gaining significant wealth unless you have some stroke of luck - inheritance, lucky job, etc.
There are a lot of people in Group 3, and they have enough collective power to flip the table over and change things - but they follow the rules and are generally too comfortable to do it. So without that, Group 1 does whatever it wants - Group 3 even empowers them to do it. And Group 1 uses Group 2 to retain power keep Group 3 down.
And this has nothing to do with Trump or this action. I voted for him and would probably vote for him again. But you, the OP, are just playing the game to lose. You're probably, I'd expect, in Group 3 like me. You pay your taxes. You cut minor corners maybe, but probably not enough to really be taking advantage of someone, and you want to separate us and point at Group 1. You might be a democrat with a soft spot for Group 2, which is very misguided and believe that only republicans are in Group 1. They aren't - hello Nancy Pelosi.
The problem is you want to fight me, not them. Unless we actually work together, there's absolutely nothing we can do about Trump and what he may or may not have done. Or what Nancy Pelosi did or may not have done. Nothing. We are both stuck, following the rules, paying our taxes and pointing the finger at each other. Awesome.
At the end of the day, people who seek to enrich themselves by skirting/breaking the rules, are always going to do that. It's not a left or right thing.
People who don't care and want someone else to pay their way, are going to find a way to do that. This is also not a left or right thing.
And people that follow the rules, are always going to get taken advantage of. Always. This is also not a left or right thing.
Most tax payers do fit into that last bucket, or they lack the power to do #1, and lack the laziness/have too much self worth to become number 2. And it's group 3 that powers both. They will always sacrifice and work, no matter what Groups 1 and 2 take from them.
There are always outliers, People from Group 1 that are actually honorable and follow the rules and somehow find success without cheating the system. And there are those in Group 2 that actually lack the ability to get out of it. Even if you are successful, and in Group 3, you typically will have a long road to gaining significant wealth unless you have some stroke of luck - inheritance, lucky job, etc.
There are a lot of people in Group 3, and they have enough collective power to flip the table over and change things - but they follow the rules and are generally too comfortable to do it. So without that, Group 1 does whatever it wants - Group 3 even empowers them to do it. And Group 1 uses Group 2 to retain power keep Group 3 down.
And this has nothing to do with Trump or this action. I voted for him and would probably vote for him again. But you, the OP, are just playing the game to lose. You're probably, I'd expect, in Group 3 like me. You pay your taxes. You cut minor corners maybe, but probably not enough to really be taking advantage of someone, and you want to separate us and point at Group 1. You might be a democrat with a soft spot for Group 2, which is very misguided and believe that only republicans are in Group 1. They aren't - hello Nancy Pelosi.
The problem is you want to fight me, not them. Unless we actually work together, there's absolutely nothing we can do about Trump and what he may or may not have done. Or what Nancy Pelosi did or may not have done. Nothing. We are both stuck, following the rules, paying our taxes and pointing the finger at each other. Awesome.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 2:28 pm to idlewatcher
I dont give a shite about Trump and his family making billions.. thats par for the course for any politician
whats shady is the US government getting shares of businesses in exchange for approvals.
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whats shady is the US government getting shares of businesses in exchange for approvals.
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Catch up quick: The Biden administration had blocked Nippon's acquisition on national security grounds that felt more like political pandering.
President Trump also opposed the deal, but flipped after Nippon increased its investment commitment and included a non-financial "golden share" that gives the White House certain governance and veto rights.
The big picture: Nippon appears to have stabilized U.S. Steel and retained its union workers. It's also projecting over $600 million in 2026 profits, which would be the company's best mark since 2023.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 2:35 pm to idlewatcher
I hate it. They are way worse than the Bidens, mainly because they are far more competent.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 2:43 pm to VOR
So you are saying that American companies are not allowed to partner with people across the pond to do business with? If that's the case then Coca-Cola, Delta, etc need to pull out of every country and only be allowed to operate in the United States
Crypto? I don't know or care enough about that dumb shite to have it ruin my life like it seems to have with yours
Crypto? I don't know or care enough about that dumb shite to have it ruin my life like it seems to have with yours
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:20 pm to bluestem75
quote:Why lie? 9000% is not "9000x".
The Clintons expanded their wealth by 9000x. Obama added 5300x.
And neither the Clintons nor Obamas had any money before being in office, so you're talking about compounding a tiny denominator in the first place.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:36 pm to idlewatcher
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The sons of President Trump and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick stand to see a big windfall after businesses tied to the families helped secure a $1.6 billion mining deal in Kazakhstan, according to a new report.
quote:Businesses tied to the families ... means what? Lutnick and the Trumps "closed the deal" .... means what?
After Trump and Lutnick closed a deal for an American company called Kaz Resources
The Trump brothers have said they were not involved in the specifics of the deal ... yet they "closed the deal"?
See, that is the kind of TDS two-step that rational folks would call to question.
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