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re: Young Marrero mother, a US citizen, chased by Border Patrol in viral confrontation

Posted on 12/5/25 at 6:19 pm to
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5917 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 6:19 pm to
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I’d love to see any research that supports this claim in the context of the USA.


You have not searched or researched then. It is not debatable.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16656 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 6:20 pm to
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If the punishment is severe enough, it will prevent crime. I guarantee you that I could punish you to the point that the mere thought of commiting a crime would give you the dry heaves.

Criminals do not commit crimes because the punishment is too light. That would be a well reasoned decision.

They commit crimes because their history of antisocial behavior, antisocial personality patterns, antisocial attitudes, and antisocial peers lead them to make poor choices without regard to likely consequences. Narcissism is also a factor because it drives actions driven by aggression, a sense of entitlement, and a lack of empathy.

Punishment theory is more of a naive concept.
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 6:22 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61438 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 6:21 pm to
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You have not searched or researched then. It is not debatable.


All research I’ve seen demonstrates the exact opposite of his claim. Do or have a link to the research you’ve read that proves harsh punishments deter crime?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61438 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

They commit crimes because their history of antisocial behavior, antisocial personality patterns, antisocial attitudes, and antisocial peers lead them to make poor choices without regard to likely consequences. Narcissism is also a factor because it drives actions driven by aggression, a sense of entitlement, and a lack of empathy.


Meeting basic needs, a general lack of opportunity or and abundance of societal discontent are never factors?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 6:35 pm to
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All research I’ve seen demonstrates the exact opposite of his claim.

Truth. And most offenders do not expect to be caught, making the potential risk of a harsh sentence irrelevant.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109287 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 6:57 pm to
Agents need to get a warrant and search that house too to bottom for illegals. Her parents may need to go back.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134935 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:04 pm to
The local TV news this evening said the Border Patrol officers were searching for a lady living in that neighborhood known to be illegal in this country whose description fit the female citizen they wanted to question.

As soon as they realized Jacelynn was not the person they were searching for, they immediately backed off.

They weren't performing random stops in the neighborhood but were looking for a specific person.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23219 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:35 pm to
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I’d love to see any research that supports this claim in the context of the USA.


You are misrepresenting what people can see with their eyes in video footage what the hell you planning on doing with research
Posted by Onyx Aggie
Foothills of the Smokies
Member since Sep 2012
2960 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:46 pm to
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Armed agents harassed a US citizen and chased her into her home.

So yeah, no big deal. Because the government did instead of a black person.


Thank you for protecting us from her, government!

Are you daft? She just verbally declared herself a citizen and then just broke out and ran from federal agents. WTF did she think would happen?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33373 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:58 pm to
Why are you such a huge bitch

Typical soy filled liberal
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33373 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

All research I’ve seen


Doesn’t mean it’s complete or accurate in your bubble. But “research” away. People here think you are super intelligent
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143841 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:08 pm to
Marrero Mom
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18634 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:27 pm to
Lmao. What dumb kunts. Would be like if cops stopped me for whatever reason and i just turned tail and ran like hell while screaming. Yeah, they gonna chase me.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7966 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

I’d love to see any research that supports this claim in the context of the USA.

I mean everyone we've executed has stopped committing crimes...

If you look at the end of the death penalty in the 1960s it sparks the start of the increase in the homicide rate.

Its a reasonably lagging indicator.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
84012 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:31 pm to
I watched the video

quote:

4cubbies


What am I supposed to be upset about?
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
26215 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:53 pm to
So, admittedly she realized he was a federal agent, but ran anyway. Nothing looks more guilty than running away and not complying.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
4170 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:06 pm to
Hey dumbass, answer one simple question.

If she is a legal citizen, and she is not trying to hide illegals, why is she running from CBP?
Just pull out your ID and show it to them. How fricking hard is that?
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11020 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:16 pm to
Well guys, she seemed to run after being asked to stop and talk. Cops do that all the time and the sure sign of a problem is running away. ?If she had been in a vehicle driving away from a stop would it have been different?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16656 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Meeting basic needs, a general lack of opportunity or and abundance of societal discontent are never factors?

The majority of all crimes are not committed due to those circumstances.

Meeting basic needs can be met at homeless shelters. Good people give to food kitchens and volunteer their time to serve those less fortunate. Good people down on their luck or giving us a great comeback story from bad decisions also choose to dine there and many even say thank you to those of us who have served them.

Give me an example of committing crimes as a result of lack of opportunity.

How about another example of committing crimes due to too much societal discontent?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44312 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

Armed agents harassed a US citizen and chased her into her home.


If I screamed at the police, turned and ran into my home, they would investigate.
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