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Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:33 pm to wallowinit
quote:100%.
Nothing is wrong with erring on the side of caution.
That is why you do the tests ... which the parents are refusing. Notice it's tests (plural).
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:39 pm to Ailsa
I like Lara Logan but she’s pushing clickbait bullshite here.
And NC Tiger is a DOCTOR as well as one of the better more logical posters on here. Who also has connections at the hospital in question
NC can you please explain why it matters or if it matters at all about running the brain scans when the swelling hasn’t gone down as claimed?
And NC Tiger is a DOCTOR as well as one of the better more logical posters on here. Who also has connections at the hospital in question
NC can you please explain why it matters or if it matters at all about running the brain scans when the swelling hasn’t gone down as claimed?
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:03 pm to Sweep Da Leg
quote:Dysfunction d/t cerebral swelling is a matter of intracranial pressure (ICP) in addition to, or as a result of, baseline damage. A swelling brain is confined by the skull.
NC can you please explain why it matters or if it matters at all about running the brain scans when the swelling hasn’t gone down as claimed?
More swelling results in more pressure on soft tissues, which translates to less blood flow to areas of the brain, and diminished function. But swelling is a temporary situation.
So as we aggressively work to reduce swelling and ICP, we also measure ICP to ensure progress. To answer your question, terminal brain function is not in the assessment differential until ICP normalizes
So the unfortunate message here is, ICP is normal while Glasgow Coma Scale (PEx brain function assessment) results are ominous. Next would be to run successive dx EEG's
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 8:15 am
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:12 pm to NC_Tigah
Are you involved? I stopped looking at your postings for links to info after a couple of pages.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:13 pm to DeBoar
quote:
Why’s this dude raging on you?
It's the Poli board. It's what we do, is it not?
Dude does seem rather unhinged.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:21 pm to Ailsa
quote:
This tiny little girl has shown some signs of recovery nearly drowning on Memorial Day and multiple doctors agree the hospital needs to give her time for the swelling on her brain stem to go down - but the Hospital is pushing to do a brain function test and wants the family to donate her organs. Debra Sukin is the President & CEO. She will not let this child be transferred to another hospital - she is blocking the parents from fighting for the life of their little girl and violating their religious belief in the sanctity of life. The parents got a temporary restraint order against the hospital to give jen time & a radical Progressive judge blocked it & gave the hospital the right to do the brain function test now before she has had time to heal.
There are TWO other Texas hospitals in the area standing by ready to take this child. How can anyone let Texas Children’s murder this little girl?
Please share, please raise your voices, please do anything you can.
There is definitely more to this story.
It sounds like TCH--one of the top children's hospitals in the world--is trying to determine if the patient is already dead. "Brain dead" is clinically and legally dead. Thats not a persistent vegetative state with a chance of recovery. Its no different than "heart death" after a heart attack.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:22 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
#1 This is a personal tragedy beyond measure for the poor parents. Horrible. But their baby is brain dead. They are not using their own resources to keep her alive. They are using everyone else's, which would be fine if the outcome was variable. It isn't.
#2 No one has made the imbecilic claim you did in the OP
#3 Paxton has turned a terrible MEDICAL situation, which neither he nor you (obviously) understand, into a political one.
Not surprising, but NC you are right on the money here. You beat me to it.
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:23 pm to RohanGonzales
quote:Personally?
Are you involved?
No.
Is the OP?
Any other questions?
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:24 pm to Ailsa
quote:
Poppycock
@Poppycockerell
Jun 4
Replying to @KenPaxtonTX
My 45 yr old son was declared brain dead at the age of 2 months. I physically blocked them from pulling the respirator. Nurse that had rank of Major interceded for me and got my son and I 24 more hours. Son passed his EEG the next morning. Always fight these people
Well if some rando on twitter said it, it must be true....
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:26 pm to NC_Tigah
I'm too tired to read what is going on, but I'll side with the doctors in this thread
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:28 pm to riverdiver
quote:
The child had the accident around Memorial Day. What’s the rush to declare brain death and pull support?
What's the "rush" to determine if a patient is alive or not? That's really your question?
Posted on 6/6/26 at 1:22 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
NC_Tigah
frick you. I’ll meet you wherever you want to fight this one out, you evil brainwashed sonofabitch. It idle words. Say when and where, emissary of Satan.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:37 am to Ailsa
Lara Logan should assume all responsibility for the child from here on.
Legal guardianship.
Posting daily updates.
Legal guardianship.
Posting daily updates.
This post was edited on 6/6/26 at 5:38 am
Posted on 6/6/26 at 5:48 am to NC_Tigah
Abortionist ghoul. Baby murdering leftist demon.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 6:17 am to John somers
quote:
Abortionist ghoul. Baby murdering leftist demon.
Wow. I'll take your ""Abortionist ghoul. Baby murdering leftist demon,"" and do you one better....
quote:Gator!
John somers
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:03 am to NC_Tigah
NC Tigah is 100% correct.
Its extremely unlikely there is still abnormal ICP at this stage in the game. The only thing I could think of could be a CNS infection that just so happened to coincide with this event that is still unresolved. But the OPs post mentions nothing of the sort.
Also when 20+ other hospitals consider/deny a transfer thats a pretty damning medical consensus.
If this was about making money off organs, wouldn't the other hospitals be WANTING the transfer?
I dont blame the family for wanting to drag their feet. It's been what, a little under 2 weeks. Thats a tough pill to swallow, especially when as of a week ago there was still some hope on the table.
It's time to run the tests, pray something positive is there, but be prepared to gently let go if the results aren't there.
Its extremely unlikely there is still abnormal ICP at this stage in the game. The only thing I could think of could be a CNS infection that just so happened to coincide with this event that is still unresolved. But the OPs post mentions nothing of the sort.
Also when 20+ other hospitals consider/deny a transfer thats a pretty damning medical consensus.
If this was about making money off organs, wouldn't the other hospitals be WANTING the transfer?
I dont blame the family for wanting to drag their feet. It's been what, a little under 2 weeks. Thats a tough pill to swallow, especially when as of a week ago there was still some hope on the table.
It's time to run the tests, pray something positive is there, but be prepared to gently let go if the results aren't there.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:09 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Dysfunction d/t cerebral swelling is a matter of intracranial pressure (ICP) in addition to, or as a result of, baseline damage. A swelling brain is confined by the skull. More swelling results in more pressure on soft tissues, which translates to less blood flow to areas of the brain, and diminished function. But swelling is a temporary situation. So as we aggressively work to reduce swelling and ICP, we also measure ICP to ensure progress. To answer your question, terminal brain function is not in the assessment differential until ICP normalizes So the unfortunate message here is, ICP is normal while Glasgow Coma Scale (PEx brain function assessment) results are ominous. Next would be to run successive dx EEG's
Thank you
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:21 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
#1 This is a personal tragedy beyond measure for the poor parents. Horrible. But their baby is brain dead. They are not using their own resources to keep her alive. They are using everyone else's, which would be fine if the outcome was variable. It isn't.
bullshite. This is like the Baby Indie case in the UK. There are plenty of charities and kind people other than the parents who are ready to VOLUNTARILY use their resources to treat the child.
frick off you lying, death-loving leftist cocksucker.
Posted on 6/6/26 at 9:32 am to soonerinlOUisiana
I don't know how the only educated and rational individual in this thread keeps up the energy to argue with you idiots.
And with Ken Paxton trying to do the headline? Yea, frick that worthless POS.
And with Ken Paxton trying to do the headline? Yea, frick that worthless POS.
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