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Why have Trump, Rudy, et al waited so long to publicly release their evidence?

Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:53 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:53 pm
Rudy had the opportunity in his civil trial but chose instead to not put on a defense and admit he committed a tort against the plaintiffs.

Trump has had going on 3 years to discuss his evidence. Now, the rumor that he lost his secret binder in the MAL raid is coming back into the fold. Do you really believe this is why he hasn't done anything?

Jenna Ellis, Sydney Powell, Mark Meadows, etc. have all followed suit and refused to publicly release the information.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:54 pm to
Would you say Rudy's career was helped by working for Trump, and being loyal to him?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:56 pm to
Everyone truly truly truly truly loyal to trump are loved by him.

It’s a short list apparently.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:56 pm to
Did the judge even let Rudy put on a defense? I thought she basically granted a default judgment on liability and then had a trial on damages only.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:56 pm to
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Would you say Rudy's career was helped by working for Trump, and being loyal to him?


Irrelevancy and a normal/private bankruptcy (or shilling for Ukrainian and Russian oligarchs) is probably a better final act than publicity, a felony conviction, and an embarrassing bankruptcy.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:57 pm to
Judges duh lol
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 7:59 pm to
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Did the judge even let Rudy put on a defense?

Yes. Rudy admitted to liability on his own.

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I thought she basically granted a default judgment on liability

Rudy consented to it, effectively asked for the default.

LINK
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:00 pm to
Dude, the massive fraud in Georgia is pretty well established.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57447 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:01 pm to
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Irrelevancy and a normal/private bankruptcy (or shilling for Ukrainian and Russian oligarchs) is probably a better final act than publicity, a felony conviction, and an embarrassing bankruptcy.
Seems like Trump could have helped his buddy out. Since he's so loyal.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:01 pm to
As you said yesterday, Rudy is a drunk, geriatric retard.

Jenna is Team Ron now, I don't know what to say there.

There are some diehards at greatawakening.win if you want to see what the true believers think.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:03 pm to
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As you said yesterday, Rudy is a drunk, geriatric retard.


Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:03 pm to
I bet you embarrass everyone around you, daily, and have no clue.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:09 pm to
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Would you say Rudy's career was helped by working for Trump, and being loyal to him?


Look you’re either loyal to someone or not. In that you take the bad with the good. That pretty much defines loyalty, unless I’m missing something.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57447 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:13 pm to
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Look you’re either loyal to someone or not. In that you take the bad with the good. That pretty much defines loyalty, unless I’m missing something.
I was riffing on another thread where it was claimed that working for Trump was a good path for one's pollitical career.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:13 pm to
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I was riffing on another thread where it was claimed that working for Trump was a good path for one's pollitical career.


It's a good path if you want to abruptly end it
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:14 pm to
Because they don’t have evidence. Mostly because they’re lazy and incompetent. There’s plenty of evidence they could’ve produced. They aren’t interested in evidence.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
2514 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:17 pm to
So, again, was Rudy allowed to put on liability evidence during the damages phase if liability had been determined? You know the answer but won’t say it because it refutes your narrative.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30395 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:18 pm to
I’m not sure I believe you’re a lawyer anymore. As nuanced as the substance of the law is (whatever the law that governs a given case), as nuanced as procedure is, as nuanced as every single instance of trial prep and every individual trial is, and how vastly different a given case is from any other……all those endless nuances that you should know go far beyond what the average non-attorney thinks is involved - and this is the question on evidence that you deliver. I would more expect this kind of take to come from maybe the mailman. All due respect.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1955 posts
Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:20 pm to
Because there is no evidence. There never was any. There was a grift and a con. This is the answer. This is the only answer. Everyone knows this is this the answer even if they won’t admit it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/17/23 at 8:20 pm to
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was Rudy allowed to put on liability evidence during the damages phase if liability had been determined?

Liability was determined when he admitted to being liable.

Why would this be part of the damages trial?

Rudy legally admitted to all the elements of the various torts. What else do you think is necessary to prove liability?
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