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re: Why do states with high average IQ vote D while states with low average IQ vote R
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:42 pm to Zach
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:42 pm to Zach
So the Orientals can solve a lot of math puzzles. You want to challenge them? Ask them a question that requires creativity. The lack of creativity is not necessarily their own individual fault. It's cultural.
Encouraging creativity is one of the best characteristics of American culture.
Encouraging creativity is one of the best characteristics of American culture.
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:43 pm to Machine
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And why are the poorest and most uneducated states almost entirely in the southeast?
Is anybody else noticing a trend here ?
Because ecological fallacy.
Google it.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:50 pm to Machine
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Yes, you know nothing about IQ. Do I win?
of corse
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:52 pm to Numberwang
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Winter killed off more stupid people over time in northern latitudes. Any pea-brain can survive in equatorial regions where food grows year round.
This is the theory of Lionel Jeffries' Ice People and Sun People. But he says it's because the cold weather forced white people to be conniving thieves and venture out to plunder other lands.
Blacks had abundance in warm climate so they became very nice and decided not to venture out and hurt others.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:54 pm to Machine
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Why do states with high average IQ vote D while states with low average IQ vote R
There is ZERO truth to this, in fact it is the opposite.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:55 pm to Machine
I know you are trolling, but you can start to see the unravel this last Presidential election.
PA, WI and MI flipped red. NH was close. The Democratic Party is going through another transition and you will see it change more. The party was once for the white blue-collar workers and unions. It has begun to abandon those and wanting to become a coalition of minorities. They currently only control the Black vote and Public Sector unions.
With that being said, the only thing holding the Democrat Party together is the 90+% AA voting block. If that begins to drop into the 70-80% or align with other minority blocks in the 60%, the party will become defunct. This is because they ignored the base that made them.
It is a very thin line on the Progressive movement. African Americans are keeping the party from destruction now and they are more focused on LGBTQ rights and hording climate change dollars. BLM is there only angle right now and that is not helping create better lives for that community. Education and jobs needs to be their focus, however they have let the Repubs come in and start claiming that.
If the economy keeps it up, next election cycle could get real ugly for D.
PA, WI and MI flipped red. NH was close. The Democratic Party is going through another transition and you will see it change more. The party was once for the white blue-collar workers and unions. It has begun to abandon those and wanting to become a coalition of minorities. They currently only control the Black vote and Public Sector unions.
With that being said, the only thing holding the Democrat Party together is the 90+% AA voting block. If that begins to drop into the 70-80% or align with other minority blocks in the 60%, the party will become defunct. This is because they ignored the base that made them.
It is a very thin line on the Progressive movement. African Americans are keeping the party from destruction now and they are more focused on LGBTQ rights and hording climate change dollars. BLM is there only angle right now and that is not helping create better lives for that community. Education and jobs needs to be their focus, however they have let the Repubs come in and start claiming that.
If the economy keeps it up, next election cycle could get real ugly for D.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:55 pm to GumboPot
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So the Orientals can solve a lot of math puzzles. You want to challenge them? Ask them a question that requires creativity. The lack of creativity is not necessarily their own individual fault. It's cultural.
I have severe skepticism about Asians on a global scale when it comes to IQ. They absolutely score higher in the US than whites. They are a bit lower than Jews. However, most Asians don't live in the US. They don't take IQ tests in rural China. The best and brightest immigrate to more developed countries so they are not the norm.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:55 pm to Strannix
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Yes it's called demographics, or put more succinctly, blacks
Every single southern state is predominantly white. And how do you explain how states like Texas are essentially an economic powerhouse despite the large black population. And the Lone Star State is not the only one still succeeding with ever-present Blacks.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:57 pm to Machine
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Yes, you know nothing about IQ. Do I win?
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Of corse
I am going to suppose this was on purpose because it is very funny.
If it is not on purpose then it is even funnier.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:59 pm to Zach
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I have severe skepticism about Asians on a global scale when it comes to IQ. They absolutely score higher in the US than whites. They are a bit lower than Jews. However, most Asians don't live in the US. They don't take IQ tests in rural China. The best and brightest immigrate to more developed countries so they are not the norm.
As much as I don't like this type of generalized thinking and assumptions, it seems to me Asians typically possess a greater mechanical (rote?) sort of intelligence and lack a certain amount of imaginative intelligence, on the the whole. I'm not sure how much a typical IQ test differentiates between the two, but I think it can be a relevant sort of distinction.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:00 pm to Zach
i think it's more agriculturally-based
in most tropical areas, agriculture is not really available.
"white" (i mean northern european-types) dominance is a very recent phenomenon that ties with the Renaissance and the development of modern western culture. for most of developed mankind (outside of Asia, obviously), the levant, egypt, adn the Mediterranean areas have dominated humanity. this is because that is where agriculture developed and societies developed higher cultures because of this abundance
in most tropical areas, agriculture is not really available.
"white" (i mean northern european-types) dominance is a very recent phenomenon that ties with the Renaissance and the development of modern western culture. for most of developed mankind (outside of Asia, obviously), the levant, egypt, adn the Mediterranean areas have dominated humanity. this is because that is where agriculture developed and societies developed higher cultures because of this abundance
Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:01 pm to Machine
On.no.you.doe won't
you were one of the people in my IQ thread the other day saying no IQ test is for realz or accurate.
you were one of the people in my IQ thread the other day saying no IQ test is for realz or accurate.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:01 pm to volod
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Every single southern state is predominantly white.
Please list the northern states that are predominantly black.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:02 pm to Machine
Because the IQ average is heavily weighed down by the poor blacks of the south. And the % of poor black in a state is directly proportional to how red they are. Go look it up, never fails. % of poor black= % of illiterate = % of crime = % of babies born out of wedlock, etc.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:03 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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As much as I don't like this type of generalized thinking and assumptions, it seems to me Asians typically possess a greater mechanical (rote?) sort of intelligence and lack a certain amount of imaginative intelligence, on the the whole. I'm not sure how much a typical IQ test differentiates between the two, but I think it can be a relevant sort of distinction.
largely cultural
Asian societies are dominated by hierarchical structures b/c of Confucianism-based ideas that dominate the area
education is a part of this culture, but it is HEAVILY structured and higher-level thinking is not emphasized. this structure gives them a much better base and intricate knowledge of the inner-workings of the area of study, but extrapolating that into new systems lags
Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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largely cultural
Oh, absolutely.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:04 pm to Machine
There a quite a few contributions to that statistic.
One, as some correctly pointed out, is demographics. Population plays a role, major cities, school systems, local government policies, college graduation rates (this is influenced by the job market in each state) and on and on and on. Don't be so simple minded to try and lump those who vote R as having lower IQs than those who vote D.
I'd like to seem the same statistic on college graduate's IQ and the correlation to voting. I'd be willing to bet it's going to be slap down the middle.
One, as some correctly pointed out, is demographics. Population plays a role, major cities, school systems, local government policies, college graduation rates (this is influenced by the job market in each state) and on and on and on. Don't be so simple minded to try and lump those who vote R as having lower IQs than those who vote D.
I'd like to seem the same statistic on college graduate's IQ and the correlation to voting. I'd be willing to bet it's going to be slap down the middle.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:04 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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As much as I don't like this type of generalized thinking and assumptions, it seems to me Asians typically possess a greater mechanical (rote?) sort of intelligence and lack a certain amount of imaginative intelligence, on the the whole. I'm not sure how much a typical IQ test differentiates between the two, but I think it can be a relevant sort of distinction.
Oh, I agree and history shows it.
The short story:
Asians: We have discovered a new thing.
Europeans: What use can it be put to?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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"white" (i mean northern european-types) dominance is a very recent phenomenon that ties with the Renaissance and the development of modern western culture. for most of developed mankind (outside of Asia, obviously), the levant, egypt, adn the Mediterranean areas have dominated humanity. this is because that is where agriculture developed and societies developed higher cultures because of this abundance
You just have to look back in history, the Romans were white. We built the aqueducts. We were kings
Posted on 7/24/17 at 3:07 pm to Y.A. Tittle
the most insane example is the "korean pilot" problem
they are SO respectful of superior position that co-pilots would literally refuse to tell pilots that a course of action was dangerous/wrong, and this led to a rash of plane crashes. they literally had to have seminars on the proper way to disagree with authority
LINK
they are SO respectful of superior position that co-pilots would literally refuse to tell pilots that a course of action was dangerous/wrong, and this led to a rash of plane crashes. they literally had to have seminars on the proper way to disagree with authority
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South Korea's aviation industry has faced skepticism about its safety and pilot habits since a few deadly crashes beginning in the 1980s. But despite changes, including improved safety records, Korea's aviation sector remains rooted in a national character that's largely about preserving hierarchy—and asking few questions.
"The Korean culture has two features—respect for seniority and age, and quite an authoritarian style," said Thomas Kochan, a professor at the Sloan School of Management at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. "You put those two together, and you may get more one-way communication—and not a lot of it upward," Kochan said.
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As a general point of reference about the Korean language, you speak to superiors and elders in an honorific form that requires more words and can be more oblique. Less, "Yo! You want water?"; and more, "It's a warm day for a nice refreshment, no?" This may sound trivial. But put this in the context of a cockpit, where seconds and decision-making are crucial and you get an idea of how communication and culture matter.
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Korea's authoritarian structure, not surprisingly, is reflected in its industries including aviation, where co-pilots traditionally have not been encouraged to challenge senior pilots. Military training only adds to constant self-awareness about where you are in an organization's pecking order—and not speaking out of turn.
"No one can really point out anything related to errors," said Park of the country's military legacy. While workplace trends are modernizing, many Korean companies still promote and reward seniority—over merit and achievements. And it's this constant reminder of a pecking order that can grip a military unit, an aviation cockpit—even a national soccer system.
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