re: Why do old conservatives get mad when you tell them that SSI is welfare

"If you wanted to fix SS (and, pro tip, no one does), you would start the proposal by making it clear that it doesn't apply to selfish baby boomers. Only then would it be politically palatable. A SS and Medicare plan must exempt the politically selfish to even have a prayer of making it through Congress."

What a snowflake little prick you are!!

3. and I'm not rich. I don't live in a mansion, drive a fancy car, or have a camp/boat.

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"If you wanted to fix SS (and, pro tip, no one does), you would start the proposal by making it clear that it doesn't apply to selfish baby boomers. Only then would it be politically palatable. A SS and Medicare plan must exempt the politically selfish to even have a prayer of making it through Congress."

What a snowflake little prick you are!!

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Ironically, he's right in a way. Just not for the reason he thinks.

As long as SS runs a surplus, it works as a lending vehicle to the government, right there along side the Chinese buying Treasuries. It is the cheapest borrowing instrument the Feds have. As long as that persists, SS isn't going anywhere.

If surpluses end though, and SS becomes a debt drag, Federal Government resistance to shedding it as a debt management vehicle will wane quickly.

The Boomers will start playing out around the time SS retirement loses full funding. So in a roundabout way, he's about right on the Boomer timing.

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Hey, I will have paid into the system for 49 years by the time I receive SS retirement.

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Yep.
We've all been used under the guise of social "security".
It's quite a remarkable political achievement really.

The government takes money out of our paychecks. It does so only with the promise to incrementally give some of the money back if and when we reach 66yrs old. Die too soon, and the government pockets the residual though. If a lender tried that, it's officers would be thrown in jail.

Instead, we're left with the fact a vast majority of aging Americans love the "gift" of Social Security. Kind of like the patsy thanking fellow players for fun night of poker even though he lost.

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We've all been used under the guise of social "security".
It's quite a remarkable political achievement really.

The government takes money out of our paychecks. It does so only with the promise to incrementally give some of the money back if and when we reach 66yrs old. Die too soon, and the government pockets the residual though. If a lender tried that, it's officers would be thrown in jail.

Instead, we're left with the fact a vast majority of aging Americans love the "gift" of Social Security. Kind of like the patsy thanking fellow players for fun night of poker even though he lost.

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Solid NC.

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How many kids did you have, rich man?

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they all have had accounts on here, too

It is a form of welfare, but one people paid into. Little different from parasites who have never earned an income and just sit on the tit of America complaining about how they don't get more free shite for being a low life.

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Relevant dictionary definition of welfare:

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statutory procedure or social effort designed to promote the basic physical and material well-being of people in need.

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SSI doesn’t isolate those in need. It forces everyone to give up a very significant quantity of their paycheck to something that is highly unlikely to return value of the amount put into it.


Ask those young conservatives if they want SSI

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Don’t think you have a smoking gun because “old conservatives” are irritated at you pointing at a program they personally paid probably more than a 100k into and lumping them with the “iPhone toting, late model Escalade driving, food stamp user” demographic.