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re: Why do old conservatives get mad when you tell them that SSI is welfare
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:27 am to uway
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:27 am to uway
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Libertarian autism is SO passé, SFP. Really.
this isn't about political philosophy. it's about the reality of my situation
the odds of my generation receiving SS benefits on the level of those who are currently receiving is probably sub-10%
the only way that my generation receives SS on that level is if the generations after me get COMPLETELY fricked
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:44 am to winston318
Lol...it is welfare, but most understand the differences.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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the odds of my generation receiving SS benefits on the level of those who are currently receiving is probably sub-10%
I’m in the same boat. That doesn’t mean it’s wrong for my parents to receive SS. And it doesn’t make it welfare.
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he only way that my generation receives SS on that level is if the generations after me get COMPLETELY fricked
Yeah we are pretty much all fricked financially at this point.
It’s the bill for contraception coming due.
What would you say if I told you I had a solution for these problems, and it involved a ton of sex, love, and life-long satisfaction?
Go to confession, go to Mass weekly, find a Catholic girl, make her into a #tradCath, and sire many little SFPs, providing for your future and saving Western civilization in the bargain!
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:07 am to Obtuse1
quote:The "recipient" was the US government. In the 30s, the government needed a lender. Via the SSA, that "lender" was the US working population.
If it was never welfare how did the first recipients in the 30s get benefits
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:24 am to Balloon Huffer
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So the dumb fricks not working, not putting any money in to SSI are afraid its going to collapse...
Young people currently putting money into it are the only reason there is currently money in it.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:40 am to Obtuse1
quote:Actually that is what makes it not welfare.
It doesn't stop being welfare just because you paid for the program for years.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:43 am to Obtuse1
quote:I dont know how this was done, but a fellow named Ernest Ackerman got a payment for 17 cents in January 1937. This was a one-time, lump-sum pay-out--which was the only form of benefits paid during the start-up period January 1937 through December 1939.
If it was never welfare how did the first recipients in the 30s get benefits even though they never paid into the system?
So yes, Mr. Ackerman fricked us out of 17 cents.
So no money was initially paid out in the start up period, so can you take this out of your little bag of lies you tell folks close to you.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:46 am to Obtuse1
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Guys it is a social welfare program no matter how you cut it.
Nope. No matter how much you want to make it one.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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this isn't about political philosophy. it's about the reality of my situation
the odds of my generation receiving SS benefits on the level of those who are currently receiving is probably sub-10%
the only way that my generation receives SS on that level is if the generations after me get COMPLETELY fricked
It sure seems obvious that at SOME point someone is going to be told "oh sorry no SS for you" doesn't it?
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
If you develop or have any type of accident that will cause a disability (God forbid it is a debilitating and long-lasting condition), you will get more out of it than you put in. It is insurance people - don’t you understand how that works?
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:50 pm to Bham4Tide
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If you develop or have any type of accident that will cause a disability (God forbid it is a debilitating and long-lasting condition), you will get more out of it than you put in. It is insurance people - don’t you understand how that works?
You fricking idiots don't posses the common sense God gave to a chicken.
If you get disabled you collect social security DISABILITY which IS welfare, but is a completely separate fund than social security that you can start collecting at the current retirement age, which is not welfare.
IF you are in this thread and you don't understand the difference between
social security insurance
social security supplemental income
social security disability
just shut the frick up already . I mean this has been explained what 50 times in this thread AND each one of you dummies has Google right in front of you and can look this shite up for yourselves.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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a. 401k funds are voluntary
The only reason SS is mandatory is that FDR looked at the oldest in our society during the depression who were essentially rotting away, and realized that when they were young they didn't/couldnt save up for a rainy day
So he started a guaranteed retirement account. Then the govt proceeded to steal that money.
If you want YOUR money to be there, stop voting democrat. They are the ones that created a bloc of voters by giving them your funds
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In early 1968 President Lyndon Johnson made a change in the budget presentation by including Social Security and all other trust funds in a "unified budget."
Its not that complicated
Posted on 11/3/17 at 3:19 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
What the hell are you talking about???
Dude, I do this for a living!
Dude, I do this for a living!
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 11/3/17 at 3:24 pm to winston318
As it was originally sold, Social Security was to retire on.
That changed as the economy changed.
That changed as the economy changed.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 3:26 pm to winston318
SS is not welfare, we pay into the system...
How much do you pay into your welfare?
How much do you pay into your welfare?
Posted on 11/3/17 at 4:03 pm to imjustafatkid
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Young people currently putting money into it are the only reason there is currently money in it.
I said the same thing when I was young people paying for my grandparents and parents SS benefits. I'm still here and so is the program, so grin and bear it my young person friend. That's what I did for the 45 years I paid into it.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 6:07 pm to winston318
Look, winston318, frick you and anyone one else that agrees with you. You don't mean SSI or SSDIB, you mean SS retirement income for those who reach 66 and have paid into the SSA system. Oh, yeah, frick you again.
I've been paying into the SSA since 1974. I've been self-employed since 1985. That means since 1985, I've had to send the SSA 14+% of every dollar I make up to the maximum taxable rate, which this year will be about $127,000. Do it or risk being sent to jail. So this year, I'll be paying about $18,500 to fund some other folks' SS retirement checks.
So you're damn right that when I hit 66, I expect to get my shitty $1600 or so per month for the rest of my life.
I'd much rather have kept my SSA contributions and invested them myself. But I wasn't given that choice, so I followed the law and paid in to give my grandparents' and parents' generation a retirement. So when it's my turn, I want mine, and it's your fricking turn to pay for it. You seem to forget that we fed you, diapered you, clothed you, and sent you to school. frick you!
BTW, no one gets SS retirement if they don't work enough quarters and pay into the system to qualify. So the idea that someone could never pay into the system and get SS retirement at age 66 is total bullshite.
I seem to have forgotten something. Oh, yeah. frick YOU!!!
I've been paying into the SSA since 1974. I've been self-employed since 1985. That means since 1985, I've had to send the SSA 14+% of every dollar I make up to the maximum taxable rate, which this year will be about $127,000. Do it or risk being sent to jail. So this year, I'll be paying about $18,500 to fund some other folks' SS retirement checks.
So you're damn right that when I hit 66, I expect to get my shitty $1600 or so per month for the rest of my life.
I'd much rather have kept my SSA contributions and invested them myself. But I wasn't given that choice, so I followed the law and paid in to give my grandparents' and parents' generation a retirement. So when it's my turn, I want mine, and it's your fricking turn to pay for it. You seem to forget that we fed you, diapered you, clothed you, and sent you to school. frick you!
BTW, no one gets SS retirement if they don't work enough quarters and pay into the system to qualify. So the idea that someone could never pay into the system and get SS retirement at age 66 is total bullshite.
I seem to have forgotten something. Oh, yeah. frick YOU!!!
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 11/3/17 at 6:08 pm to Bham4Tide
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If you develop or have any type of accident that will cause a disability (God forbid it is a debilitating and long-lasting condition), you will get more out of it than you put in. It is insurance people - don’t you understand how that works?
i have disability insurance
Posted on 11/3/17 at 6:09 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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It sure seems obvious that at SOME point someone is going to be told "oh sorry no SS for you" doesn't it?
i think the trust runs out in like 2030 or something
Posted on 11/3/17 at 6:11 pm to lammo
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So you're damn right that when I hit 66, I expect to get my shitty $1600 or so per month for the rest of my life.
and frick me over. thanks
now you know why one of my primary goals in life is to end SS. this entitled attitude of the 2nd most selfish generation in history (only behind the boomers)
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You seem to forget that we fed you, diapered you, clothed you, and sent you to school. frick you!
you didn't do that to me. my mom will be cared for regardless of what the federal governmetn offers her
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