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re: WHO was the “bad guy” of WWII?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:52 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:52 pm to RollTide1987
I still say that Nazi Germany is to blame for WW2, but, most people don't know anything about how the Government of Poland was part of the mistreatment of ethnic Germans who resided inside Poland. These ethnic Germans found themselves inside Poland after the national borders were re-drawn after WW1.
These folks were treated harshly and it was undeserved.
These folks were treated harshly and it was undeserved.
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:53 pm to RollTide1987
Churchill saved Britain and helped to save Europe and probably the rest of the world. He was a great man. I know nothing else. Anyone that doesn't like him is probably a Nazi. Nonetheless, if Churchill were alive today, he would likely support Donald Trump though with some reservation over supporting a full socialist like Harris and most of the Democratic Party.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:53 pm to SoFla Tideroller
In the beginning, Hitler used rhetoric similar to Socialism to gain the trust of the burdened German workers. He ranted against the rich, the banks, and the bourgeois until he gained power, and then he dropped that policy as soon as he gained power and allied with Germany's industrial leaders. Hitler believed in inequality and power from the top which differs from the Socialist beliefs of freedom from exploitation and democratic socialism.
Hitler used Socialism to further his fascist goals.
Hitler used Socialism to further his fascist goals.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:55 pm to BuckI
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Hitler used Socialism to further his fascist goals.
Hitler used anything he could to get into power and stay in power -- even some awful stuff that benefited no one. A very despicable and odious person to say the least.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:58 pm to Indefatigable
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He chose not to because Hitler could not be trusted and a Germany dominated Europe was not in Britain's interest.
Hitler cut a deal with the Brits (Chamberlain) and broke it.
Hitler cut a deal with Stalin and broke it.
But yea, Chamberlain should have trusted Hitler because he liked the Brits!!!!
The day Hitler invaded France and the lowlands was the day Chamberlain took office. How was Chamberlain going to prevent that? The English were already pot committed. They had thousands of troops in the war zone.
Trusting Hitler to abide by a treaty makes as much sense as believing Kamala Harris.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:00 pm to RollTide1987
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So just leave out the most important and fundamental policies of the Nazi regime.
I think he is talking about what they believed in politically - their ideology for their Gov and their nationalism
you are talking about eugenics, which is how they justified their extremist political beliefs - racial and cultural purity
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:01 pm to Indefatigable
That is true. The dynamics between the combatants go back for centuries, an evolution of events that drew them closer and closer to the big war. But in the end, pride among the leading powers' royal heads and advisers caused them to forsake reason and enter an event that would destroy their power and nations. No one wanted to look weak but in reality, they truly were.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:02 pm to doubleb
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Trusting Hitler to abide by a treaty makes as much sense as believing Kamala Harris.
Yeah I got to read the OP's link to the guy's essay. He is delusional (and everyone here who has romantic ideations of being a Nazi which are a lot on this board) to think Hitler was some swell guy who would have kept any promise to anyone.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:05 pm to theballguy
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Churchill saved Britain and helped to save Europe and probably the rest of the world. He was a great man. I know nothing else.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:08 pm to theballguy
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essay
What essay?
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(and everyone here who has romantic ideations of being a Nazi which are a lot on this board)
What?
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to think Hitler was some swell guy who would have kept any promise to anyone.
Huh?
Do you sniff paint?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:11 pm to theballguy
quote:Agree. He was pure evil.
Hitler used anything he could to get into power and stay in power -- even some awful stuff that benefited no one. A very despicable and odious person to say the least.
He used Christianity when he thought it might further his cause but became enraged with the religion when he received pushback on his policies. He then wanted to replace it with Islam but never had the time to put this policy into place.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:12 pm to theballguy
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Churchill saved Britain and helped to save Europe and probably the rest of the world.
Yes Churchill saved Britain at the cost of bankruptcy (after FDR and his communists took him to the woodshed in Lend Lease) and the destruction of the empire.
Why didn't Hitler initiate Operation Sea Lion? Does anyone believe he had the ability to invade the US?
Hitler was probably a fool for declaring war on the US but at that time a state of war essentially existed already. He did FDR a favor.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:28 pm to BuckI
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No one wanted to look weak but in reality, they truly were.
Not saying you’d disagree by any means…but I’d argue that (at least as it relates to WW1) knowledge of their imperial weaknesses is exactly what drove the posturing that begat the First World War.
The French and British empires were declining, and they knew it. Germany was too late to the party, and they knew it. The Habsburgs were dying and absolutely knew it. The Russians were disintegrating from within and employed every possible measure not to know it.
They all chose to act like they were at their strongest, and they all suffered immensely while dooming Europe to a terrible 40 years.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:29 pm to BuckI
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He then wanted to replace it with Islam but never had the time to put this policy into place.
Link?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:36 pm to AU86
quote:Forces were coming together to bring to an end the British Empire before WW2.
Yes Churchill saved Britain at the cost of bankruptcy (after FDR and his communists took him to the woodshed in Lend Lease) and the destruction of the empire.
quote:A major positive for the Allied cause was that Hitler's allies were worthless to his cause. Japan foolishly attacked the US which led to fulfilling his treaty with Japan and foolishly declaring war on the US when both nations should have invaded the Soviet Union from opposite sides, but Japan was too afraid to invade the Soviets.
Hitler was probably a fool for declaring war on the US but at that time a state of war essentially existed already. He did FDR a favor.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:37 pm to Indefatigable
quote:Exactly, good point.
knowledge of their imperial weaknesses is exactly what drove the posturing that begat the First World War.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:39 pm to BuckI
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Much of the far left's policies in Europe are a direct result to make sure Nazism never rises again.
So they established the modern concept of "progressive" because it sounds different than NAZI -
therefore they are enabled to follow the exact same agenda as the nazis did, only with more gentle persuasion along the way = but we end up in the exact same type of despotism after 80 years instead of 20 years.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:40 pm to TigerAxeOK
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The detestable acts of Nazi Germany are inexcusable. There is no argument there. But Stalin's reds weren't any better. And in my honest opinion, America as a whole has become worse than all of them.
America has become worse than Nazi Germany?
Damn, I thought the Dems hated America but nothing beats this hot take.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:45 pm to AU86
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Hitler was probably a fool for declaring war on the US
I have often pondered what drove him to do that - unless the "axis" agreement would have been treated as a declaration of war against all of Japan's allies, and he just wanted the 'big man' factor.
However, FDR only announced a 'state of war' exists between us and Japan. Perhaps he had in mind to treat the parties differently.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 9/15/24 at 1:54 pm to RollTide1987
The only opinion of Winston Churchill I have is if that fat frick isn’t burning in Hell then no one is.
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