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re: WHO was the “bad guy” of WWII?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:34 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:34 am to RollTide1987
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:35 am to RollTide1987
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No, he did not. You don't understand the concept of irony, do you?
Keep digging dork
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:36 am to RollTide1987
Stalin
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:37 am to TrueTiger
quote:No, but they terrorized Europe like no one before. The systematic murder of tens of millions of human beings because they were disabled, or of a different nationality, race, or religion must never be allowed to happen again.
you think the Nazis invented tyranny?
Similar tragedies were going on in the Soviet Union and later other Marxist nations. Fascism and Marxist gain power in times of hardship and love to try to convince people that the other is evil while their side is right.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:37 am to 632627
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Since most here won’t take Shapiro’s word for it, here’s Victor Davis hansons written rebuttal
It does no good. There are fanboys of Tucker Carlson on this board who believe the man can never error. I like me some Tucker and he is free to have anyone he wants on his podcast, but Darryl Cooper is an anti-semitic and xenophobic revisionist who bemoans the fact that Britain didn't give Germany a free hand in Europe.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:39 am to dsides
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Keep digging dork
You have no argument so you have lowered yourself to insults. It speaks to your intelligence and your hero worship of a man who is just as fallible as the rest of us.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:40 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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There was a country that was using concentration camps on its enemies, starving the civilian populations, preparing chemical weapons, and hellbent on world domination.
Well, there were two if you count the germans.
100%
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:40 am to RollTide1987
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It speaks to your intelligence and your hero worship of a man who is just as fallible as the rest of us.
lol. “Hero worship of a man”. You are not a serious person. Done with you. You were caught lying and now trying to deflect. Clown
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 9:42 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:40 am to BuckI
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No, but they terrorized Europe like no one before.
That was due to the application of industrial technology to old school tyranny.
Tyranny hasn't changed in eons but technology sure has.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:41 am to RollTide1987
the real question everyone should be asking is why German people were kicked while they were down. The Germans moved on from the Kaiser's government and their country was pretty much a free for all for radical groups.
instead of stabilizing Germany the allies punished them and put the boot on their neck. radical liberal thinkers started subverting everything about the German past. Weimar was pretty much the nascent epicenter for modern libshits. "modern art" like scat, dadaism, brutalism and even gay pride originated in Weimar Germany. particularly the Frankfurt School.
the parts of Germany that where the Prussian aristocracy came from were now under occupation and intentionally made poor. while majority of Germans were struggling post WWI, the cosmopolitans were actually doing good. average Germans were struggling with inflation while the liberal elite were making bank.
comedic that people act shocked when Hitler came to power. Hitler wasn't the first Right Wing strongman at the time. Europe was basically ruled by Right Wingers. France, Poland and Finland were basically dictatorships. the elephant in the room is the reason Right Wing politics was common in the era was the Bolshevik giant neighbor. most of Europe was embroiled in radical Democratic Socialists, Anarchist, Commies and Liberals revolutions. that was what set off the Germans. they were being flooded with all these groups and when the strong man came, suddenly everyone was shocked.
instead of stabilizing Germany the allies punished them and put the boot on their neck. radical liberal thinkers started subverting everything about the German past. Weimar was pretty much the nascent epicenter for modern libshits. "modern art" like scat, dadaism, brutalism and even gay pride originated in Weimar Germany. particularly the Frankfurt School.
the parts of Germany that where the Prussian aristocracy came from were now under occupation and intentionally made poor. while majority of Germans were struggling post WWI, the cosmopolitans were actually doing good. average Germans were struggling with inflation while the liberal elite were making bank.
comedic that people act shocked when Hitler came to power. Hitler wasn't the first Right Wing strongman at the time. Europe was basically ruled by Right Wingers. France, Poland and Finland were basically dictatorships. the elephant in the room is the reason Right Wing politics was common in the era was the Bolshevik giant neighbor. most of Europe was embroiled in radical Democratic Socialists, Anarchist, Commies and Liberals revolutions. that was what set off the Germans. they were being flooded with all these groups and when the strong man came, suddenly everyone was shocked.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:42 am to dsides
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You are not a serious person. Done with you
Good. Run along now, little fly. Please fly far away from this thread and spout your Zionist conspiracies elsewhere.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:43 am to RollTide1987
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I like me some Tucker and he is free to have anyone he wants on his podcast, but Darryl Cooper is an anti-semitic and xenophobic revisionist who bemoans the fact that Britain didn't give Germany a free hand in Europe.
Folks like cooper are a dime a dozen.
What’s most troubling about this whole incident is the #1 conservative voice, with some 20 million followers, touting cooper as the most honest and important American historian.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:46 am to BuckI
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No, but they terrorized Europe like no one before. The systematic murder of tens of millions of human beings because they were disabled, or of a different nationality, race, or religion must never be allowed to happen again.
Similar tragedies were going on in the Soviet Union and later other Marxist nations. Fascism and Marxist gain power in times of hardship and love to try to convince people that the other is evil while their side is right.
Now do Stalin you leftist hack. Who killed more, the Nazi's or the Bolshevik communists?
How come Stalin.and the communists get a pass? Why did FDR and his communists in his government suck him off?
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 9:47 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:46 am to Goonie02
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the real question everyone should be asking is why German people were kicked while they were down. The Germans moved on from the Kaiser's government and their country was pretty much a free for all for radical groups.
People have been asking that question since the Paris Peace Conference began in 1919. I can't remember if it was John Maynard Keynes or someone else with the British delegation who asked the question: "How can there be peace when all you want is revenge?"
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:52 am to RollTide1987
I cannot stand Shapiro. No original ideas and tows the line as this interview is exhibit A. I am glad Daniel was interviewed by Tucker just to piss off the mainstream. I'm not the biggest fan of Tucker, but some of his guests are intriguing.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:58 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:00 am to Junky
It is pretty well proven that Hitler had no interest in fighting n the British. He actually admired them.and their empire. He offered them generous peace terms and Churchill turned them down. Churchill won the war eventually, but he bankrupted/destroyed the empire. FDR was far more generous to Stalin in terms of Lend Lease than he was to the British. We basically rented the Soviet army to fight that war.
I have read/heard for years that Churchill was bankrolled by anti-German people.
People bitch about what Putin is doing in Ukraine, in regards to the civilians, and rightly so, but what Churchill and Bomber Harris did was far worse. If Germany had won, they would have been the ones tried for war crimes.
I have read/heard for years that Churchill was bankrolled by anti-German people.
People bitch about what Putin is doing in Ukraine, in regards to the civilians, and rightly so, but what Churchill and Bomber Harris did was far worse. If Germany had won, they would have been the ones tried for war crimes.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 10:05 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:02 am to Goonie02
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average Germans were struggling with inflation while the liberal elite were making bank.
This is the part that doesnt get talked about. The mark became worthless. German people became desperate.
There is some disagreement as to what caused the massive inflation. Some say the germans intentionally inflated the mark to help payoff the massive WW1 reperations. Some say it was forces outside of germany. It is an interesting conversation but not a common one.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 10:17 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:03 am to BuckI
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You cannot be weak on Nazism. You have to be tough. They cannot make the mistakes that their ancestors made who stood by and did nothing.
Good lord, what a childishly simplistic take.
People like you have been so conditioned to project nonsense like this so you can claim moral high ground.
News flash for you: There is a strong argument to make that, in the Pantheon of evil in JUST the 20th century, Hitler and the Nazis don’t even make the medal podium (Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot).
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:04 am to RollTide1987
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People have been asking that question since the Paris Peace Conference began in 1919. I can't remember if it was John Maynard Keynes or someone else with the British delegation who asked the question: "How can there be peace when all you want is revenge?"
Yes, the British really wanted revenge against the Germans. not just for WWI but for the Kaiser Wilhelm's "meddling" in British affairs. British were still angry about the whole affair with the Boers. Germany was arming and supplying resources to help them fight the Brits.
another reason was German Naval expansion. British really thought they owned the oceans in the 19th Century.
manufacturing, Germany was becoming a manufacturing and engineering powerhouse. some viewed this as a danger, especially the British.
what baffles me the most is how much input the Brits had in post war policies. they basically did little to nothing to win both wars. America was the turning point in both WWI and WWII. Europeans always decry American "isolationism" but in reality we're a big reason they didn't get smashed by Germany, Italy and Japan.
America had expeditionary forces in North Africa and Italy before D-Day even started. we were sinking Japanese merchant ships covertly and disrupting their operations in Asia. Philippines was US territory at the time. our main focus was always in the East. we didn't want anything to do with Europe.
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