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re: WHO was the “bad guy” of WWII?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:54 am to PineyWoodsHog
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:54 am to PineyWoodsHog
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We held Japanese and Germans, whose families had been citizensof the US for many decades. They were stripped of there rights and property simply for being of German or Japanese decent.
This was a stain in our history, but tell me how many people did we execute before you start making comparisons to Nazi Germany.
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:54 am to AU86
quote:awwww yes. That good guy hitler who totally could have been trusted and NEVER at any point in time EVER broke a treaty
He offered them generous peace terms and Churchill turned them down
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:04 am to AU86
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He offered them generous peace terms and Churchill turned them down.
Hitler essentially asked Britain to accept his dominance of central and western Europe while allowing him a free hand to invade eastern Europe. Why should the British, in good faith and conscience, have accepted those terms?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:11 am to RollTide1987
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Tucker Carlson literally called him the most important historian in America at the beginning of his podcast.
If that isn't touting then I don't know what is.
TC said that Cooper is challenging the mainstream historians by doing the work and looking deeper into things - that is why he is important to TC
look at the MSM response to this interview - TC is a Nazi sympathizer and Cooper is a holocaust denier. ridiculous
TC did not say he agrees with Cooper on everything he says
I appreciate the detail of resarch for what Cooper does, but I think some of his conclusions are dead wrong
i am free to listen to cooper and form my own opinions, same as you
that being said, I disagree with cooper’s fighting overly simplistic history lessons with his own overly simplistic history lessons. The truth is far more complex.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 11:13 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:15 am to supatigah
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Cooper is challenging the mainstream historians by doing the work and looking deeper into things
Many would prefer that he be censored because they don't want unorthodox thinking seeping out into the public.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:23 am to supatigah
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i am free to listen to cooper and form my own opinions, same as you
That’s wrong think comrade. Warmongering, lying propagandist like rolltide1987 don’t believe in nuance. If you disagree at all with him you love hitler and Putin.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:27 am to dsides
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dsides
Ah. The fly is back.
Please explain to the group what the subtle nuances of Germany's peace proposal to the British were.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:28 am to RollTide1987
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Please explain to the group what the subtle nuances of Germany's peace proposal to the British were
Dude you lied then edited your post to cover it up. Why would anyone engage with you?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:29 am to dsides
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Dude you lied then edited your post to cover it up. Why would anyone engage with you?
What were the subtle nuances of Germany's peace proposal?
ETA: I finally figured out what you were accusing me of.
I didn't edit anything in that post other than Ferguson's name. I accidentally typed in "Neil" Ferguson instead of his real name "Niall," and changed it accordingly. I didn't even notice I had typed "bad" until just now. Let me go back and edit that as well.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 11:34 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:30 am to RollTide1987
I think the Soviets were worse than the Nazis. We didn't have a choice in that Germany declared war on us, but I do think communism is inherently a more dangerous ideology than fascism.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:34 am to RollTide1987
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What were the subtle nuances of Germany's peace proposal?
Was hitler lying? Maybe. As cooper pointed out in his rebuttal to the pearl clutching retards like you that lost their sh*t after the podcast challenged your preconceived notions. But would pursuing the peace option been worthwhile prior to engaging in full out war?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:35 am to RollTide1987
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I didn't even notice I had typed "bad" until just now. Let me go back and edit that as well.
So you are admitting you lied and he did say cooper said hitler was the good guy. Glad you came clean.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:35 am to dsides
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lol. You are an idiot. Yes he did. Got to the 11 minute mark retard. And way to change your post from “good” to “bad.” You f*cked up. Admit it
There. I went back and corrected my mistake. I originally typed "bad" but have since changed it to "good." Thank you for pointing out my error.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:36 am to dsides
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So you are admitting you lied and he did say cooper said hitler was the good guy.
No, I am admitting that I mistyped. I have since gone back and corrected the error which you pointed out for me.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:39 am to RollTide1987
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No, I am admitting that I mistyped. I have since gone back and corrected the error which you pointed out for me.
Oh so he didn’t mean it when he said cooper said hitler was the good guy?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:41 am to RollTide1987
Woodrow Wilson.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:41 am to dsides
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Oh so he didn’t mean it when he said cooper said hitler was the good guy?
I don't know what you're talking about. In the video, Ferguson is the one who refers to Hitler as the "good guy" without ever attributing anything to Cooper.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:45 am to BuckI
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The roots of WW2 go back to the Treaty of Versailles.
Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner!!
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:46 am to RollTide1987
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I don't know what you're talking about. In the video, Ferguson is the one who refers to Hitler as the "good guy" without ever attributing anything to Cooper.
It’s amazing how bought in you are to ignoring the video to support your narrative. He said he was quoting a passage from cooper and then said basically he meant that hitler was the good guy. Why are you lying again?
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 11:47 am
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:46 am to KiwiHead
quote:Neither was Wilson. They saw what was to come from it which was another war.
In particular Pershing and Foch were not enthusiastic to the Armistice and Treaty . Pershing felt that a "negotiated" peace meant nothing in the long run. If there was to be a treaty it should be signed and forced on the Germans in Berlin.
The Allies made a mistake by not entering Germany and forcing the surrender in Berlin. Since there were no allied forces on German territory, the Germans never fully understood why they surrendered. For years a ''stabbed in the back'' theory persisted that their leaders along with minorities and socialists caused them to lose.
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