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re: When the Going Gets Tough, the Electric go Petrol

Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:50 am to
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35315 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:50 am to
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Not to mention I like my acreage and the conservative community we live in.


Code for white supremacist transphobe. You've been added to the Jan 6 list.
Posted by brad8504
Member since Jul 2004
11715 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:51 am to
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holy shite... I hope it’s worth it


Childcare is cheaper. Property taxes are cheaper. Neighbors are great. School district is excellent (small K-12 public school in a rural community with maybe 280 kids). Live right next to a couple lakes and a 1600 acre WMA. 25 miles north of my favorite hunting spot in KS (I hold a lifetime license there so I can hunt big game as a resident). An additional 2300 acres are accessible within a 10-30 minute drive. We’ve got enough ground to graze several pairs and some buildings for a number of things (animals, equipment, etc.).

The finances also look a lot better, but rural communities don’t always have the most booming economies, so there wasn’t much of a choice.

This beats the hell out living in a crammed suburb.
Posted by brad8504
Member since Jul 2004
11715 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:51 am to
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Code for white supremacist transphobe. You've been added to the Jan 6 list.


LMAO
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15213 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:01 am to
Electric is actually ideal for towing, the problem remains range and speed to "refuel"
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20028 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:07 am to
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So, to overcome these efficiency deficits, electric cars require greater electricity consumption, ergo greater greater electrical production, ergo greater coal & fossil fuel consumption, ergo greater carbon emissions.




You just know the "Green" people absolutely hate when this type logic is put into the argument.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:10 am to
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Why can’t they put a small lawn mower engine in it that runs a small charger to give it longer life? If they could make it get 100mpg, that would be a huge deal.


Why not just put a windmill in the back of the truck? You could drive forever.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25208 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:16 am to
I like my oil/gas life.....

But we are headed towards Europe,
Gas prices so high they make you go electric or public transportation.

A nation of pussies will we will be!
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19241 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:22 am to
.... ergo they are just a bunch snake oil salesman trying to tinker with lives !
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31562 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:22 am to
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Why can’t they put a small lawn mower engine in it that runs a small charger to give it longer life? If they could make it get 100mpg, that would be a huge deal.

You mean, make something like a hybrid?
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:35 am to
People keep saying that stopping for 30 minutes to charge is no big deal (it is, if you can find a charger).

Let’s assume a gas station has 12 pumps. They can fill 12 cars in a 5 minute window (maybe more, I’ve seen people buying $5 in gas).

If they change every pump to a charger (they won’t), you can fill 12 cars every 30 minutes.

To recap, that’s 60 cars filled vs 24.

Why doesn’t anyone mention this? Gas stations on major routes would have lines every day like a gas shortage.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11342 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:53 am to
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Electric is actually ideal for towing, the problem remains range and speed to "refuel"


So, not ideal then...
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21746 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:55 am to
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I still don't understand how electric cars have been derided into the woke category and why some of you are so threatened by them.


You need to listen to Bjorn Lomborg explain the proper way to approach the problems of the world, and how electric passenger vehicles is a complete waste of time and resources if you are worried about Climate Change.

Here’s one interview with Lomborg:
Hoover Institute interview of Bjorn Lomborg
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:55 am to
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So, not ideal then...



Well, it is ideal if you do not consider range and speed to recharge in the equation...
Posted by Kirk Herbstreit
in the outhouse
Member since Jan 2005
6190 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:56 am to
Unfortunately the sale of these vehicles may actually do quite well. It seems like a trend was started a couple of years ago where beta soy’s started buying trucks to be hip. They don’t actually need to use the truck for anything but want to say look at me and my truck.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11342 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:00 am to
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I still don't understand how electric cars have been derided into the woke category and why some of you are so threatened by them.


My company has several thousand workers that drive more the range of electric vehicles each day. Many drive country roads with sparse gas stations. Electric vehicles may be great for the city, but if you spend a lot of time on the open road, then gas engines are far superior.

The push for electric vehicles is just another way to push everyone into the cities where they are easier to control. Agenda 2030. Don't fall for the propaganda.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31562 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:05 am to
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Unfortunately the sale of these vehicles may actually do quite well. It seems like a trend was started a couple of years ago where beta soy’s started buying trucks to be hip. They don’t actually need to use the truck for anything but want to say look at me and my truck.

I've never driven a hybrid vehicle, but my friend was issued one for his work car a few years ago and he really liked it. He was one of the last people on Earth that I would expect to like something such as that. I think that is the direction that the green folks should be interested in going. Try to perfect that technology.
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2898 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:18 am to
Range is clearly going to be an issue. I don’t even know how Ford is going to compete with the likes of Tesla for sourcing batteries and their scarce resources. Regardless though, you have to start somewhere and this is a good start for Ford. Battery technology has improved dramatically over the past decade and its only a matter of time before the capacity and speed of charging improve to make electric vehicles not only as good as ICE vehicles in range and time of refuel/recharge but better.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22742 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:19 am to
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No one is “threatened” by them. Don’t like being forced into anything. Allow the market to create the inventions as they can. Or, as the market demands. When government comes in and pushes these things, there will be no demand for the items when they become available.
they have to force it otherwise it would never take hold, think of Trump gas pricing if it were 2.20 here again no one would even give a shite about electric. This is all one big massive push by the left and big tech. Also the impact of lithium mining, shipping fossil fuels, and old/dead batteries disposal show this was never about the environment. Anyone who thinks the admin has the environment in care is a fiucking moron.
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2898 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:25 am to
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If they change every pump to a charger (they won’t), you can fill 12 cars every 30 minutes. To recap, that’s 60 cars filled vs 24. Why doesn’t anyone mention this? Gas stations on major routes would have lines every day like a gas shortage.


If you made the same comparison just six years ago it would have been far worse. Battery technology is quickly improving and if you’re a majority ICE car company you can’t afford to not dive into the electric drive train. It’s only a matter of time before battery technology improves to be more convenient.
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 8:27 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59194 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:33 am to
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And I can fill my petrol powered vehicle up in 5 minutes. When battery technology can catch up to that then talk to me.



Musk has an idea on that but it would mean the entire industry has to conform to a standard on battery placement and mechanism for removal so that's simply not going to happen (if it did, the swapout time would be something like a minute to a minute and a half).

Another issue which needs to be addressed is what happens with these batteries once they've outlived their usefulness. I have yet to see any articles on that. Can they be recycled or do we have to go through some sort of byzantine process in order to dispose of them?
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