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re: When it comes to illegal immigration, Los Angeles is... complicated
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:23 pm to L.A.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:23 pm to L.A.
If only there was a way for foreigners to come here legally.... oh wait there is.
We can be a nation of laws or a nation with no laws. The problem is these people dont respect our laws, and the government has been selectively enforcing them, so the foreigners respect them less and less. And now we have millions of people here illegally that dont think they have to follow the rules and are turning it into the 3rd world countries that they came from.
We can be a nation of laws or a nation with no laws. The problem is these people dont respect our laws, and the government has been selectively enforcing them, so the foreigners respect them less and less. And now we have millions of people here illegally that dont think they have to follow the rules and are turning it into the 3rd world countries that they came from.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 12:24 pm
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:24 pm to L.A.
It’s complicated because you don’t care that people break the law.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:29 pm to L.A.
What you described can describe where I used to live in NC. It has not been going on as long as L.A.
The Mexicans there work the blueberry/strawberry fields. crawl under small crawl spaces to do the HVAC grunt work/ painters, carpenters. FOR CASH CHEAP. Nannys on figure eight island, housekeepers for the beachhouse rentals.
I have also seen small white lady business cleaning beach home rentals go under because mexicans do it way cheaper...
Accept they will tell you, as I had many tell me. They all pile in a double wide with 23 people in a 1 bath home. The men will work 3 jobs. The women watch the kids. Under Obama they filed their 22 family members and pet dogs in EIC taxes and got back up to $45000.
Any younger non childbearing females: take jobs in the multiple bilingual doctors, dentists offices or DMV's. No whites need to apply unless you are fluent in Spanish or are black or brown.
When they reach a family savings of a certain amount, they go get in a fender bender-w/ no ins/DL. Get one night hot and cot then a free plane ride home--- and live like rich people on ranches.
So they add nothing to the USA and just use the USA. Under Obama maybe Biden---- getting food stamps/welfare on top of the under the table jobs.
Some States may indeed have generational law-abiding Mexicans. Where do you draw the line?
Will the massive blueberry and strawberry fields be able to find Americans willing to work for maybe $4 an hour in humidity and heat? They would if they paid better wages for a summer job for a student/teen.
The Mexicans there work the blueberry/strawberry fields. crawl under small crawl spaces to do the HVAC grunt work/ painters, carpenters. FOR CASH CHEAP. Nannys on figure eight island, housekeepers for the beachhouse rentals.
I have also seen small white lady business cleaning beach home rentals go under because mexicans do it way cheaper...
Accept they will tell you, as I had many tell me. They all pile in a double wide with 23 people in a 1 bath home. The men will work 3 jobs. The women watch the kids. Under Obama they filed their 22 family members and pet dogs in EIC taxes and got back up to $45000.
Any younger non childbearing females: take jobs in the multiple bilingual doctors, dentists offices or DMV's. No whites need to apply unless you are fluent in Spanish or are black or brown.
When they reach a family savings of a certain amount, they go get in a fender bender-w/ no ins/DL. Get one night hot and cot then a free plane ride home--- and live like rich people on ranches.
So they add nothing to the USA and just use the USA. Under Obama maybe Biden---- getting food stamps/welfare on top of the under the table jobs.
Some States may indeed have generational law-abiding Mexicans. Where do you draw the line?
Will the massive blueberry and strawberry fields be able to find Americans willing to work for maybe $4 an hour in humidity and heat? They would if they paid better wages for a summer job for a student/teen.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:31 pm to L.A.
I would say that if they have been here for 20-30 years and made money in a nicer place than they came from, that they had a good run.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:32 pm to L.A.
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complexity of the immigration situation
Illegal or Legal... really isn't that complicated...
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:33 pm to L.A.
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You've got multi-generational families that have lived in L.A. for decades where part of the family is legal, and part is not. In most of these families, the older generations speak almost no English
Doesn’t seem like they came to America to be Americans.
Send them back.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The situation has gone on too long and has become too entangled to deport every illegal
Practically, you might be right. The thing that annoys the shite out of me is our political class allowing and embracing it.
If a U.S. citizen hypothetically snuck into Japan, Turkey or numerous other countries and somehow managed to remain undetected for a few years, they wouldn't say: "Hey you slipped by us. Congrats!"
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:00 pm to cajunangelle
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Will the massive blueberry and strawberry fields be able to find Americans willing to work for maybe $4 an hour
Do. Not. Care. Let them rot in the fields, or automate. If Strawberries cost 40% more, it's not going to stop anyone from buying them.
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law-abiding Central Americans
FIFY. If you're illegal, you're not law abiding.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:22 pm to L.A.
Deport all illegals.
Reform welfare to make able bodied 18-65 year olds ineligible.
Former welfare parasites can do the work the illegals were doing.
Reform welfare to make able bodied 18-65 year olds ineligible.
Former welfare parasites can do the work the illegals were doing.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:23 pm to L.A.
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Like most of you, I'm watching the riots in L.A. with a feeling of disgust. And of course all the "California belongs to Mexico" nonsense the protestors keep chanting is based in pure historical ignorance.
This aligns with the US is stolen land and so is Israel.
It’s a leftist thing.
Get it right you fricking Nazi colonizer.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:25 pm to L.A.
Complicated or not. Coming here illegally is a criminal offense. It can't be different for L.A.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:25 pm to L.A.
I’ll simplify it:
If you’re here legally, you get to stay. If you’re here illegally, you have to leave. If you have to leave but want to be in the U.S., utilize the process of entering the U.S. legally.
If you’re here legally, you get to stay. If you’re here illegally, you have to leave. If you have to leave but want to be in the U.S., utilize the process of entering the U.S. legally.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Good luck. Some of these people have been deported or returned home many times.
So we should not deport anyone?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:35 pm to L.A.
Not complicated. Get in line like the rest who have been waiting legally to become citizens.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:38 pm to L.A.
I agree with OP that Los Angeles likely should have been held to the side and not targeted until much later.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:38 pm to L.A.
quote:Just so you're aware, the only part of this unique to L.A. is the closeness to the border. That type of behavior is attempted in every state of the Union and every city.
But... the immigration situation there is complicated. I lived there for 28 years and I constantly marveled at the complexity of the immigration situation. You've got multi-generational families that have lived in L.A. for decades where part of the family is legal, and part is not. In most of these families, the older generations speak almost no English and the younger generation speaks almost no Spanish, The middle generation will be fluent in both languages. Most of the ones who are not legal have lived in L.A. openly and without fear of reprisal. In part the steady flow of illegal immigrants into the city is fueled by geography. It's only about 140 miles from Los Angeles to Mexico's northern border. The other driver is economic. There's a city full of gardeners, janitors, fruit pickers, nannies, maids, etc. who are Mexican and who are in the USA illegally, but they live and work openly. Almost all of them are paid in cash and the people who employ them probably know that there person is illegal. Some Mexicans who are in the USA legally end up marrying Mexicans who aren't here legally, so that increases the complexity of the reality for the Mexican families who live there. They attend regular L.A. churches, which usually have a Spanish-only service/mass, and their English speaking children and grandchildren attend local public schools.
The one difference you didn't mention is that the politics in L.A. have changed to allow and encourage this behavior. Which has lead to:
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Add to that the fact that L.A. is majority Hispanic
L.A. isn't some special case that is unique. It's the end result of what will happen everywhere in America if it isn't shutdown.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:44 pm to L.A.
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But... the immigration situation there is complicated.
Its been simple for 50 years! LaRaza...Reconquista!
That old guard you speak of, you don't think they also pined for Republica Del Norte?
Out-settle, out-frick, infiltrate the infrastructure to cater to your Spanish-speaking only towns and enclaves, cities and undocumented bubbles of safety, get on the government dole, get a DL....no bank, no SS, no taxes...if you ever want government freebies, talk to a Mexican.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:47 pm to L.A.
Follow the laws as they are written.
If the laws are flawed, then lawmakers need to change them. Until then, follow the laws.
If the laws are flawed, then lawmakers need to change them. Until then, follow the laws.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:51 pm to L.A.
quote:sounds like you’re making excuses for people to do things illegal because they are addicted to paying slave wages under board
The other driver is economic. There's a city full of gardeners, janitors, fruit pickers, nannies, maids, etc. who are Mexican and who are in the USA illegally, but they live and work openly. Almost all of them are paid in cash and the people who employ them probably know that there person is illegal.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:52 pm to L.A.
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There's a city full of gardeners, janitors, fruit pickers, nannies, maids, etc. who are Mexican and who are in the USA illegally, but they live and work openly. Almost all of them are paid in cash and the people who employ them probably know that there person is illegal
They're just as illegal as the aliens. Lock those bitches up too.
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