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re: What’s next for St George?

Posted on 5/17/26 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8218 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 3:08 pm to
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This is rich considering the fact the library tax is about to come up for another vote only a few months after it was defeated. How come the library tax doesn’t have to wait for a “presidential cycle”?

My view is the same no matter the issue, I don’t want stuff continually put in a ballot till it passes, I don’t care what it is.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2563 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 3:09 pm to
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If you believe SG voters are more likely to vote in higher property taxes than BR voters then I don’t know what to say. The same thing applies to sales taxes.



I never said one population is more likely to vote in taxes over the other. I'm saying when you create two school systems serving the same population that one system is currently "serving." taxes are going up for both parties.

You are kidding yourself if you truly believe that you won't be paying more in taxes for a new district despite what the former fireman turned mayor says. Just look at how much more Central residents are paying compared to what you are paying now in property taxes for schools.

Central would be paying even more but they voted down another tax increase for their school system last year.

When St George breaks away. EBRPSS will come back to its residents and ask for more money to replace a portion of what they are no longer receiving from St George.

It's like when a family goes through a divorce the cost to run that one household goes up significantly because now you are paying for two residences. That's two rents, meals, streaming services doubled, extra furniture, etc.

Overall cost goes up for both households and they each have less expendable cash than before the divorce.

This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 3:12 pm
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2563 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 3:13 pm to
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My view is the same no matter the issue, I don’t want stuff continually put in a ballot till it passes, I don’t care what it is.


Completely agree.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
14579 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 3:17 pm to
I don't understand why people that don't live in St. George get a vote on what happens in St. George. No amount of campaigning or education will change this result.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37807 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 3:18 pm to
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How is the district supposed to justify major investments in facilities in South Baton Rouge if there is a constant possibility that those areas could eventually break away and take those new facilities with them? Whether people support or oppose St. George, the uncertainty itself creates problems for long-term planning and resource management.



They weren’t doing anything for the schools in St. George. That’s the point of all of this.



Now they just have an excuse.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2563 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 3:21 pm to
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The local school bills usually pass. This one failed because Jeff Landry is a sumbitch and overplayed his hand on other things and pissed a lot of people off that just ended up voting no.


Why does everyone insist on blaming others vs realizing its just a bad idea. Only 35% of the registered voters in St George bothered to show up for this important vote and of the ones that did show up only 54% was in favor of it. Hell, Central and Livingston parish residents had more support for the new school district than St George's residents and Zachary voted overwhelmingly against it.
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 3:52 pm
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15297 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 3:24 pm to
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Why does everyone insist on blaming others vs realizing its just a bad idea. Only 30% of the registered voters in St George bothered to show up for this important vote and of the ones that did show up only 54% was in favor of it. Hell Livingston parish had more support for the new school district than St George's residents.


Haven't looked at the numbers, but yeah if this is the case then the residents were being lazy/apathetic.

I dont understand the people trying to force a connection with these amendments and Landry.

Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2563 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 3:44 pm to
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Haven't looked at the numbers, but yeah if this is the case then the residents were being lazy/apathetic.


I pulled the data from Sec State website this morning. Here's the breakdown from St George:

79 precincts in St George. 27 of those precincts voted majority "No" for the new school district.

Total votes casted 19599.

11,029 For
8,570 Against

From previous election results I was able to calculate St George has around 56,000 registered voters.

19600/56000 = 34.7% voter turnout in St George.

To me the real kicker is only 11,000 of 56,000 voters wanted a district so bad that they bothered to cast a vote for it. That's less than 20%.

Meanwhile BR proper and the remainder of the parish casted two times more votes for St George than St George. Livingston Parish casted 12,518 and Orleans Parish had 13,857 votes for St George which is more than the state's 5th largest city did!


Other parishes that cast more votes for St George schools than the citizens of St George:

Jefferson 26,384
St Tammany 25,811
Lafayette 14950
Caddo 13,108

Only 2 of 64 Parishes in a dark Red State voted in favor of St George Schools

Livingston and West Feliciana

EBR and Orleans we by far the most against with 70,000 nay votes each.

Orleans had the highest % against with 84% followed closely by St James with 80%.

Avg margin of defeat was 64% which matches the over all state total



Note these numbers do not include early voting but early voting was a 67% against St George so statistically about the same as yesterdays vote.

This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 5:44 pm
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17691 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 3:48 pm to
They should try a hostile takeover of the ebr school system. EBRPSS has pretty much been begging someone fresh to take the superintendent position.

Or get creative and get Landry and co to push legislation to add a few hand picked "at-large" school board positions. (Not sure if that works since school board is elected.)
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25318 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 4:08 pm to
This is not a state issue, this is a parish issue. Period!
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 4:09 pm
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2563 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 4:36 pm to
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This is not a state issue, this is a parish issue. Period!


Yeah let's ignore what the state constitution says and go by what oldskule says. Period!

Did you miss the part where 70% of the voters in the parish rejected it as well?
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2563 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 5:09 pm to
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Yesterday was a chance for more local control of our tax dollars.


And yesterday the citizens of Orleans parish who was heavily against a new school district cast more votes in favor of your school district than the citizens of the state's 5th largest city with a population of 90,000. You know the one known around these parts as St. George.

I'm not going to lie . . . I am embarrassed for you and the rest of your proud community!
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
55996 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 5:57 pm to
Woodlawn middle high and elementary are all schools that are a lot newer than ones in Baton Rouge
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 7:23 pm to
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Woodlawn middle high and elementary are all schools that are a lot newer than ones in Baton Rouge


Newer than some but older than some.

Posted by moontigr
Dark Side of the Moon
Member since Nov 2020
7593 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 7:53 pm to
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Need to somehow get Trump to endorse it.




This.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10610 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 8:25 pm to
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This is not a state issue, this is a parish issue. Period!


It should have become only a parish issue once EBRSS no longer covered the entire parish with Baker but for sure after the large chunks Zachary and Central were later taken from it. A separate constitutional amendment should have been made freeing the parish of this burden of EBRSS being protected as a full parish school board and district, or a clause doing the same should have been added to Zachary’s, Central’s, or StG’s attempted amendment.

To overcome both state and especially parish vote I would have had the vote in November even if that meant start date would have been pushed to fall of 2028.

You had idiots who played on fear of new taxes and race card. You could tell the posters on TD opposed to the district were all about some personal interest or fear of change or being left behind, and they were not thinking about what was the best thing for education in the parish. Ignorance and apathy won out over common sense.

Anyone living in StG who voted against this voted against helping property values as being able to sell local and neighborhood schools to developers, businesses, and new parents. It would not have passed anyway, but the ignorance is strong with them.

They also get to keep paying the same amount of taxes which mostly go to schools outside of StG and keep being beholden to the whims of the majority black voters in the city of BR in regards to any future taxes, standards of public schools and students, and who gets mapped to the schools in the city. The entire area of their shitty school district gets to remain the same with same crappy leadership and basically controlled by black voters in BR.

For StG not to vote in favor regardless of turnout shows what shite stains Broome and her ilk pushed into the StG area over the last 5 years while draining it of its tax revenue. Magnet student parents were not enough to do this. The city seemingly has a lot more problems than it did back in 2019 or maybe even realized.

Also, how long before that elementary school the EBRSS board tried to dangle as planned but not happening if new district formed gets scuttled or moved to just outside of StG boundaries as a just in case this gets attempted again in a couple of years…
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25318 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 8:28 pm to
Batten Rooooge strongly voted against good schools for St George....what a shitty place to live!
Posted by ColdDuck
BR via da Parish
Member since Sep 2006
3010 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:01 pm to
Most kids that live in’s St G already go to private school. Ask any parent and I bet most voted NO because they were worrying about paying more property tax. They are not gonna swap and send their kids to some new StG public school.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24920 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:26 pm to
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How were Baker, Central, and Zachary able to pull it off?


None of those places represented the tax $ in EBR back when they did it like St. George does today. When those places pulled out of EBR, they were glad to get rid of them because they were liabilities. St. George is the last of the $$$ in the parish. It is as simple as that...
Posted by LSULaw2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1738 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:49 pm to
The State really needs a constitutional amendment (or as part of a new constitution) to allow for creation of independent school districts, similar to Texas. More local control can sometimes be a good thing vs a larger Parishwide system. At least have that as an option instead of doing a state/parish constitutional vote everytime.
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