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re: What’s next for St George?
Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:05 pm to dallastigers
Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:05 pm to dallastigers
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Ignorance and apathy won out over common sense.
What makes this true. Oh that's right because you say its true! It seems to me the common sense vote was to vote against it.
The critical thinkers on this board have been telling you this never going to work and the biggest reason is because outside of this echo chamber the vast majority of citizens of St. George don't really care for the new district and this has been evident since the inception of the idea. Here are FACTS that you continue to ignore because you are blinded with your emotional ties to your hopes and dreams:
1) The original petition in 2015 failed to get the 17859 signatures required to put the issue to a vote.
2) The father of the St George movement, Bodi White, runs for mayor in 2016 and looses by a margin that could have easily been overturn it weren't low voter turnout in St George precincts.
3) 2018 you carve out a bunch of neighborhoods so you reduce the number of required signatures to 12951 which almost 5,000 less signatures than 2015
4) 2019 you finally get a vote and again low voter turnout but it passes by 3,000 votes with 17421 votes. That is less VOTES than signatures you achieved in the first petition.
Of the 53,0000 fired up St George registered voters only 17,421 bothered to show up and cast a vote for their new city and taking the next step to crown jewel a brand new shiny school system. Nothing says a fired up community like 33% of the registered voters saying I want this!
5) Fast forward to 2024 when a White Republican Football coach gets 57,000 votes to win a parish wide election.
6) 2025 a fired up community has a whopping 30% voter turnout to elect their first mayor ever, a fricking career fireman. Nothing says taking my new city serious like electing a career fireman as its first mayor to guide you to the promise land of a new school district.
7) 2026 St George finally has their day to shine. The states 5th largest city shows the whole state how serious they are about their new school district and boy did they rise to the occasion. 11,000 people from the city of St George bothered to show up and cast a vote for their Holy Grail!
Speaking of the "black ilk" that you mentioned. You know what Shreveport and New Orleans had in common yesterday. That's right they cast more votes in favor of St George School district than the 90,000 people that make up the state's 5th largest city, known as St George. Let that sink in for you.
These are all undisputed FACTS, not my opinion, not what I predict, but facts!
Given these facts why in world did you ever believe this issue had a snowball's chance in hell of ever passing!
Now you tell me what have the citizen's of St George done to prove to me that when given the chance they won't blow it? What have they done to earn my vote? What have they done to convince me that they won't raise my taxes? What have they done to show me they really want a school district?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but point to Central and Zachary and claim they will have so much money that the toilets in the new schools will be made of gold!
I think its time this board takes their heads out of their asses and quit repeating narratives and start basing their decisions on the facts!
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Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:10 pm to LSULaw2009
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The State really needs a constitutional amendment (or as part of a new constitution) to allow for creation of independent school
What are you talking about we have a system in place you just failed miserably at getting it done.
So what you are saying is we need to change the system to appease the 11000, out of 53,000 voters in St George. Typical St George fashion things don't go their way they want to take their ball and go home!
Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:16 pm to armytiger96
You sure are mad that people actually unshackled themselves and made a city after being dared to by Baton Rouge.
Sure it sucks that the school district failed for now but the city is still a city and it will happen. Maybe not now but it will later. It’s inevitable.
Sure it sucks that the school district failed for now but the city is still a city and it will happen. Maybe not now but it will later. It’s inevitable.
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:28 pm to LSULaw2009
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The State really needs a constitutional amendment (or as part of a new constitution) to allow for creation of independent school districts, similar to Texas.
That needs to be part of the next push. It for sure needs to happen with EBR as it doesn’t have a parish wide school district and hasn’t for awhile. For EBR it can be done independently of actually creating a new school district, but the parish needs more flexibility to divide out than having to get constitutional amendments. They will have to decide if rest of state is hesitant or not about changing constitution for rest of parishes to either push statewide or just for push for parishes that no longer have a single parish school district covering the entire parish like EBR.
Texas put in certain requirements/restrictions to make sure rural areas were taken care which is partly why the Frisco school district goes into cities of Plano and McKinney (maybe another) and school districts of McKinney, Prosper, and Lewisville go in the city of Frisco. Little Elm is mixed in, but I forget how. Districts set up and then cities grew and filled in later. It was a little dicey when another city could approve a bunch of apartments and flood schools faster than planned, but for urban/suburban areas it’s better than parish or county wide school districts.
I feel like the entire EBR parish would be better off if they had just let the SE Baton Rouge school district start back in 2013.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:36 pm to dallastigers
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I feel like the entire EBR parish would be better off if they had just let the SE Baton Rouge school district start back in 2013.
In hindsight, the city of BR probably wishes that had happened. Broome single-handedly cost them tons of money by telling people to form a city and then causing it to succeed through being a horrible fricking mayor.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:55 pm to Adam Banks
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You sure are mad that people actually unshackled themselves and made a city after being dared to by Baton Rouge.
Absolutely I am. I won't deny it; I'm the kid that is extremely bitter at their parents for getting a divorce. I grew up in the unincorporated area of Baton Rouge and you know what we called it. Baton Rouge. To me it is and always will be Baton Rouge. Dumbasses on this board who probably weren't even born then are always here to remind me it has never been Baton Rouge because some imaginary boundary says so,
To me we are one community whether you like it or not. All of this tit for tat discussions about the tax money when the vast majority is raised from sales taxes is asinine. At this point trying to divide up tax dollars is like a conjoined twins attached at the hip trying to separate their blood supply.
I get pissed at the false narratives continuously thrown around without a single critical thought put towards them. For example you used the term "unshackled" by BR. Do you know what St George looked like in 1990? I'm pretty sure the only 4 laned road in St George was Airline Hwy and Coursey Blvd. Seigen lane was a two laned country road in BFE.
Over the past 30 years the vast majority of investment by all of EBR citizens has been funneled into the St George area but this board is convinced they paid for it all plus financed all of BR proper.
Funding of CATS keeps getting repeated but this is funded by property tax only paid by BR proper despite several CATS routes going to St George.
BRFD and BRPD get mentioned as well but not a single penny of St George property taxes goes to these entities. Yet BRFD will go into St George to support its citizens when needed.
Its repeated over and over again about St George not having enough schools for a city with a population of 90,000 while ignoring the fact that there are several schools within a stones throw of St George and are the neighborhood schools for many St George citizens. They also fail to realize that only 5000 of the 90,000 citizens use the EBRPSS yet they want to complain that they don't have enough attention.
The cherry on top was to wake up this morning to this thread blaming everyone but themselves on why this measure failed. Once again it's an echo chamber of what people think and if you use facts to point out their errors the name calling starts. Only one person on this board took the time actually look at the votes to see once again the people of St George could really not care less about a new city or new schools.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:02 pm to armytiger96
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Over the past 30 years the vast majority of investment by all of EBR citizens has been funneled into the St George area but this board is convinced they paid for it all plus financed all of BR proper.
I mean….its the truth
…..the vast majority of tax money is from St. George and it pays for everything so….yeah they did pay for those roads AND paid for BR proper…. quote:
ignoring the fact that there are several schools within a stones throw of St George and are the neighborhood schools for many St George citizens
So the neighborhood schools for St. George aren’t in St. George.
Doesn’t sound very neighborhood to me
Though once again your problem should be with SWB and BR.
They caused this to happen.
And the school district will happen. It’s a matter of time.
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:20 pm to Adam Banks
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mean….its the truth …..the vast majority of tax money is from St. George and it pays for everything so….yeah they did pay for those roads AND paid for BR proper….
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City-Parish General Fund: St. George accounts for roughly 9% to 18% of the general fund reductions that the city-parish must navigate, depending on the department.
Here we go with false narratives again and no facts. I'm guessing you are a product of EBRPSS since you obviously don't understand what vast majority means. A significant portion of EBR taxes money comes from St George but certainly not the vast majority. For example a 30 second google search reveals that EBRPSS budget next year is $800 MM and its been reported that if the St George school system is formed EBRPSS will lose between $60-90 MM for its annual budget. That's approximately 10% of the budget. No, St George is not funding the VAST MAJORITY of EBRPSS. Again a false narrative constantly repeated in an echo chamber with no tangible evidence to back their claims.
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So the neighborhood schools for St. George aren’t in St. George.
For some neighborhoods that's exactly the case. If you live in Westminster would you consider Tara two miles down the road to be your neighborhood school or Woodlawn the one all the way across the town of St George from you?
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:27 pm to Adam Banks
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And the school district will happen. It’s a matter of time.
I mean if you say so it must be true despite all empirical evidence trending otherwise. Less people from St George voted for the school system than signed the petition to become a city.
At least you will always have your hopes and dreams!
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:40 pm to armytiger96
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Absolutely I am. I won't deny it; I'm the kid that is extremely bitter at their parents for getting a divorce. I grew up in the unincorporated area of Baton Rouge and you know what we called it. Baton Rouge. To me it is and always will be Baton Rouge. Dumbasses on this board who probably weren't even born then are always here to remind me it has never been Baton Rouge because some imaginary boundary says so
City limits aren’t imaginary. Why do you keep shouting “facts” at everyone else and then you spew this emotionally based BS.
You got a lot of nerve calling anyone else a dumbass after some of the crap you’ve posted.
Congrats on the big win. Status quo, just what this community needs.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:52 pm to Cliff Booth
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City limits aren’t imaginary. Why do you keep shouting “facts” at everyone else and then you spew this emotionally based BS.
They may not be imaginary, but when you have a city parish form of government that we have they aren't necessary either.
The emotion was in response to why I hate the St George movement. I presented those as opinions not facts. The facts are what dispels the BS that is spewed here and gets repeated as facts but are blatantly wrong.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 12:18 am to armytiger96
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when you have a city parish form of government that we have they aren't necessary either.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on that. The city parish form of government is part of the problem. It’s a relic of a time when the vast majority of people lived in the city of BR. Clearly times have changed. The parish president and the mayor of BR cannot and should not be the same person. It’s a conflict of interest.
Broome proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt and is the main person who caused all this mess to begin with.
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I hate the St George movement
Fair enough
Posted on 5/18/26 at 1:07 am to armytiger96
I live in BR and have zero personal interest one way or another in St George getting or not getting it's own school district. But if they or any other parish in the state want a new local school district it shouldn't require a constitutional amendment everytime. Independent school districts in some cases make a lot more sense than charter schools. Property taxes are also usually more palatable to people when the money stays more local than spread to other areas outside of their immediate area.
The people that scream St George broke off from BR are idiots. Unincorporated citizens have every right to incorporate for self governance; in fact it's a constitutional right. If BR wanted what is now St George so bad they should have annexed them long ago.
And the people claiming issues with the second petition carving out those who didn't want it in the first go round are just bitter it eventually passed.
The people that scream St George broke off from BR are idiots. Unincorporated citizens have every right to incorporate for self governance; in fact it's a constitutional right. If BR wanted what is now St George so bad they should have annexed them long ago.
And the people claiming issues with the second petition carving out those who didn't want it in the first go round are just bitter it eventually passed.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 5:42 am to armytiger96
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Dude you need to step out of your echo chamber. 70% of the parish voted against it. Several people that voted against it are fiscal conservatives that voted against it because they don't want their taxes to go up and get nothing in return.
You mean all the people who pay $15,000 for Catholic schooling because EBR offers no viable option, don't want to pay more for better schools? Flawles logic
Posted on 5/18/26 at 5:47 am to armytiger96
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Dude go back and reread my post and who I was responding to. The "they" I'm referring to is the Baton Rouge leadership. I was saying I wonder why BR didn't incorporate all of SE BR long before the stupid arse St George movement took place.
You might want to remove "how annexation works" from the list of "shite you already know"
Municipalities don't annex unincorporated areas. Businesses and residents within those areas petition the city to annex them.
You should do some googling before stepping into a debate you are obviously unequipped for.
But good of you to defend such a great city as Baton Rouge. Lets have lunch at the mall food court soon.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 6:06 am to armytiger96
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These are all undisputed FACTS, not my opinion, not what I predict, but facts!
You also leave out a lot of facts. How convenient for your argument.
In any event, it failed. St. George will try again.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 7:31 am to Adam Banks
If you live there and are able to move, leave and never look back.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 7:33 am to armytiger96
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If Metarie
Was incorporated once before any of us were alive. They don't want to be. So a vote on it would never pass.
And we had to vote on Central. It takes a constitutional amendment to create a new school district because the parish school lines were locked in. They didn't want any city to just up and create a new school district on a whim.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:47 am to Adam Banks
The way families are leaving the EBRPSS each year and the few schools that are left in St. George will become fewer and fewer, the problem will eventually take care of itself with charter schools.
EBRPSS has 3 choices:
1. continue the way they are going and die as fewer and fewer students attend each year.
2. allow the charter schools to feast - which means they will not get to steal the funding from St. George but will have to fund charters.
3. stop being stubborn idiots and let St. George manage their own schools which by the way will be a minority heavy school district day one. The big racism claim was a lie - shocker.
On another note, check out the racial diversity at BR High that all the establishment white parents are worried about..
EBRPSS has 3 choices:
1. continue the way they are going and die as fewer and fewer students attend each year.
2. allow the charter schools to feast - which means they will not get to steal the funding from St. George but will have to fund charters.
3. stop being stubborn idiots and let St. George manage their own schools which by the way will be a minority heavy school district day one. The big racism claim was a lie - shocker.
On another note, check out the racial diversity at BR High that all the establishment white parents are worried about..
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:55 am to winkchance
if this was so important to St George then why didn't the mayor come out and present a plan to the voters about what the new school district would look like?
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