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re: What’s next for St George?
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:04 am to choupiquesushi
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:04 am to choupiquesushi
Thxs
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Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:07 am to Icansee4miles
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our darker skinned residents, and the scourge of guilty liberal white women were dancing with glee.
frick them. IMO getting a city born was a much bigger deal. The school district will happen. This was just the first bite at the apple. There will be more.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:10 am to UptownJoeBrown
To all those who voted no, would you send your kids to an EBR public school? Didn't think so.... So stfu and let us do what's best for our kids with OUR money.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:11 am to Icansee4miles
The Anti-STG lobbyists did a fantastic job of getting the propaganda out
The STG leadership did a horrible job in response. They should have gotten in front of it but everything they put out was a response to the propaganda.
The STG leadership did a horrible job in response. They should have gotten in front of it but everything they put out was a response to the propaganda.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:12 am to Indefatigable
BINGO !
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:33 am to armytiger96
quote:the majority of that 70% struggle to read, write, and do math at a high school level, and you’re proud to be voting with them
70% of the parish voted against it.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:37 am to Rob Perillo
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Anyone who leans left has been propagandized to believe that St. George is racist, so they vote no to stick it to whitey.
Indeed. I made a few comments on FB that were replied to by liberal white women (my favorite demo) from Caddo and Rapides
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:43 am to doubleb
also as apartment complexes age and newer nicer ones pop up nearby the older ones always start taking vouchers etc.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:46 am to ipodking
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The Anti-STG lobbyists did a fantastic job of getting the propaganda out
Yep.
NAACP et all put a bunch of signs out there of a little black girl in pigtails saying to vote No for equal schools or some bullshite.
Kind of racial dog whistles that would have gotten ugly if used against them.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 11:49 am to SixthAndBarone
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LMAO! You think Central wants St George and all of the extra housing and apartments that would lead to more opportunity for others to join their school system???
I guess you decided to gloss over the whole talking out of my arse comment which translated to sarcasm.
But there is a reason why Bodi White wanted to have the two cities adjacent to each other.
What is your explanation for the Central rat tail?
Posted on 5/17/26 at 12:00 pm to Shaun176
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I doubt a new constitutional would pass once it get's to the publics vote given how things have been going. It needs to happen but if just one part of it is perceived to be slight of hand, it will be another grand waste of everyone's time.
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It is because school districts are specifically listed in the constitution as each parish then some specific cities.
The sliver to Central leaves open the option of joining Central. I don't think the people of Central want 80,000 people diluting their ability to make decisions about Central.
If a constitutional convention happens, the new constitution could make it easier to form school districts.
Probably the best option to get something running in the short term would be to form a charter school network.
I doubt a new constitutional would pass once it get's to the publics vote given how things have been going. It needs to happen but if just one part of it is perceived to be slight of hand, it will be another grand waste of everyone's time.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 12:02 pm to doubleb
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Like I said a real dumbass. You voted with the Democrats and never Trumpers and you think it was for conservative reasons. True hardheaded and true dumbass.
I voted along with 44% of your next door neighbors in St George.
Yeah your neighbors were so excited about your new school system that only 34% of registered voters only bothered to show up and vote.
Only 11,000 of 50,000+ registered voters in the 5th largest city in the state said they were in favor of your Hopes and Dreams school system. Almost 1/3 of the voting precincts in St. George voted against it!
Barely 22% of St George citizens wanted a new school system. What a strong community you have there.
Call me whatever names you want I don't care. Bottom line is yesterday was a strong arse victory for no new school taxes!
Posted on 5/17/26 at 12:07 pm to armytiger96
quote:You’re so against St George, yet between this thread and others that you dont understand why things are the way they are.
I'm wondering why they didn't incorporate all of SEBR. My guess is that since we were on a Mayor-President system it didn't matter. Or so they thought.
The city of BR couldn’t annex any of the unincorporated land into the city of BR due to civil rights laws on the books from the 60s. These laws prevent the addition of new areas if it dilutes the “minority” population. Minority doesn’t mean the small population though, it means non-white. So because the unincorporated area as a whole is about 65% white, it couldn’t be added. And any of the areas that could have been added would have just made the remaining incorporated area even whiter.
So no that we’ve established why it couldn’t be incorporated, let’s look at the money. St George is anchored by the 70810 and 70817 zip codes, the two wealthiest zip codes in EBR parish. Because of the consolidation city parish government system, money is collected from the city of BR and all unincorporated areas and placed into a single government fund. Money is then transferred out of that fund into operating accounts to pay for services.
What was always known, but factually exposed recently is that the city of BR is financially dependent on the unincorporated areas to provide services such as CATS, BRPD and BRFD, which only service the city of BR. So ever year when new taxes for the city are voted on and passed, the money to provide those services is coming from a portion of the parish that won’t receive said service.that my friend is called taxation without representation.
The EBRSS is no different really. $70M dollars collected from St . George’s 90k population and only 5 public schools to show for it. And don’t get me started on the fact that families who live as far south and Perkins and Pecue are zoned to McKinley HS.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 12:07 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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the majority of that 70% struggle to read, write, and do math at a high school level, and you’re proud to be voting with them
Which includes 44% of the City of St George. I'll vote along side whoever if it results in no new taxes for shitty schools. I pay enough for private schools, I don't need to pay more in taxes.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 12:07 pm to armytiger96
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What is your explanation for the Central rat tail?
There was a story in the St. George newspaper by Woddy Jenkins that the rat tail was to leave open the possibility of joining with the Central School system. Problem is that STG is so much bigger than Central that Central would lose local control of their schools.
Eventually, Louisiana will have a Constitutional convention. New constitution will make it easier to form school districts.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 12:23 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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The city of BR couldn’t annex any of the unincorporated land into the city of BR due to civil rights laws on the books from the 60s. These laws prevent the addition of new areas if it dilutes the “minority” population. Minority doesn’t mean the small population though, it means non-white. So because the unincorporated area as a whole is about 65% white, it couldn’t be added. And any of the areas that could have been added would have just made the remaining incorporated area even whiter.
You learn something new everyday. I've always wondered why that area was not included in BR proper as it grew.
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So no that we’ve established why it couldn’t be incorporated, let’s look at the money. St George is anchored by the 70810 and 70817 zip codes, the two wealthiest zip codes in EBR parish. Because of the consolidation city parish government system, money is collected from the city of BR and all unincorporated areas and placed into a single government fund. Money is then transferred out of that fund into operating accounts to pay for services. What was always known, but factually exposed recently is that the city of BR is financially dependent on the unincorporated areas to provide services such as CATS, BRPD and BRFD, which only service the city of BR. So ever year when new taxes for the city are voted on and passed, the money to provide those services is coming from a portion of the parish that won’t receive said service.that my friend is called taxation without representation.
This is where you lose me on this argument. My view is we are one community and I don't get caught up in the whole BR vs unincorporated in terms of tax dollars because we are City/Parish form of government. Arguing over the tax dollars is like a husband that makes significantly more than his wife arguing with her over who is paying for their fair share when they have one household to run.
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BR is financially dependent on the unincorporated areas to provide services such as CATS, BRPD and BRFD, which only service the city of BR.
These are paid for by property taxes for those that live in the city limits of BR. Show me your property tax bill showing someone outside of city limits paying for these services. I can show you several CATS routes that go into St George.
I also witnessed first hand when BRFD arrived on the scene to put out a fire at a house in U Club so lets quit spewing this rhetoric.
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The EBRSS is no different really. $70M dollars collected from St . George’s 90k population and only 5 public schools to show for it. And don’t get me started on the fact that families who live as far south and Perkins and Pecue are zoned to McKinley HS.
This gets thrown around here a lot, but y'all like to gloss over the fact that there are multiple schools, like Tara, that are a stones throw from St George boundary and serve the kids from St George. You also ignore the fact that 20% of EBRPSS budget goes to charter schools several of which are in St George.
You like to speak about your 90,000 population but never mention that only 5800 of that population participates in the public school system. As a bunch of fiscal conservatives do you really fault EBRPSS for not spending millions on new schools that would be essentially empty?
As for the McKinley HS statement its complete BS unless that family requested McKinley HS due to its gifted and talented program. McKinley's SE boundary runs along Gardere and Essen lane.
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 5/17/26 at 12:25 pm to Adam Banks
Whites may be a slim minority in the parish, yet they are the problem? One area of unincorporated residents that arent majority black can’t have a school district ? We are still pretending that St. George is a one hundred percent white area with a wall and military security ?
It’s okay to take taxes from an area to continue to fund a rotten turd of a school system? It’s okay to force families to have to spend large sums of money on private schooling if they want to live in our capital city ?
I’m so tired of the belly aching bullshite. A large portion of the parish residents would cut off their nose to spite their face. If you can’t have a good school district, a city will not survive. There are a lot of people that can be good, hardworking residents that could live here and pay taxes. But they can’t afford to raise a family here because the twenty grand a year to send their kid to private school is 20+% of their gross income. Then sky high property taxes and crime. It’s all one big spiral and it’s a crying arse shame.
It’s okay to take taxes from an area to continue to fund a rotten turd of a school system? It’s okay to force families to have to spend large sums of money on private schooling if they want to live in our capital city ?
I’m so tired of the belly aching bullshite. A large portion of the parish residents would cut off their nose to spite their face. If you can’t have a good school district, a city will not survive. There are a lot of people that can be good, hardworking residents that could live here and pay taxes. But they can’t afford to raise a family here because the twenty grand a year to send their kid to private school is 20+% of their gross income. Then sky high property taxes and crime. It’s all one big spiral and it’s a crying arse shame.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 12:25 pm to Shaun176
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Eventually, Louisiana will have a Constitutional convention. New constitution will make it easier to form school districts.
The way they’ve been voting against these amendments, I have my doubts that this will ever happen
Posted on 5/17/26 at 12:33 pm to armytiger96
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My view is we are one community
Then you should have been mad at Baton Rouge.
Not St. George.
Their leaders did not help their constituents thus their constituents followed in the founding fathers footsteps declared their independence and broke away.
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 5/17/26 at 12:34 pm to armytiger96
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Call me whatever names you want I don't care. Bottom line is yesterday was a strong arse victory for no new school taxes!
Let’s see, who is more likely to vote for higher school taxes? The voters in the current EBRSS district, or the voters in the current voting district that makes up SG?
If you believe SG voters are more likely to vote in higher property taxes than BR voters then I don’t know what to say. The same thing applies to sales taxes.
Yesterday made higher school taxes more likely. Yesterday was a chance for more local control of our tax dollars.
I understand tgd magnet issues, I understand the private school issues, but I for one would rather a smaller district made up of voters with more skin in the game, than being in a large district with much less control.
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