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re: What Pence did and did not do. 117 state Legislators BEGGED him... and he refused
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:25 am to cajunangelle
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:25 am to cajunangelle
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I think he got presser and it was easy because he is a never Trumper. He would repeat Trump policies to run in 2024.
He'll be the Jeb of that election. He's better off just riding into the sunset, never to be heard of again.
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Posted on 2/14/21 at 4:15 am to TOSOV
Pence was a very fiscally responsible governor and would make a good President.
Those state legislators are looking for a scapegoat to blame for their own inaction. It is laughable to believe those state legislators would have done something in ten days they didn’t do all last year.
Trump never did put together an effective government because he kept his cabinet in turmoil. Same for his re-election campaign. He wasn’t out there with grass roots efforts to counter the voter harvester army people like Stacey Abrams put together. He just wanted rallies of his supporters cheering for him instead of new voters. He kept people around him that told him what he wanted to hear.
His lost the popular vote by 7 million votes.
Why he did not run on his record of lowering taxes and ending wars and better funding black colleges I do not know.
Those state legislators are looking for a scapegoat to blame for their own inaction. It is laughable to believe those state legislators would have done something in ten days they didn’t do all last year.
Trump never did put together an effective government because he kept his cabinet in turmoil. Same for his re-election campaign. He wasn’t out there with grass roots efforts to counter the voter harvester army people like Stacey Abrams put together. He just wanted rallies of his supporters cheering for him instead of new voters. He kept people around him that told him what he wanted to hear.
His lost the popular vote by 7 million votes.
Why he did not run on his record of lowering taxes and ending wars and better funding black colleges I do not know.
This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 4:20 am
Posted on 2/14/21 at 4:31 am to Jjdoc
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Mike Pence was asked by 117 state Legislators to send it back to them because something was wrong and they needed the time to get to the bottom of it.
Those 117 are not a majority in any state legislature. They don’t have the authority to speak for the legislature. They can speak for themselves which they did but that carries no real weight. If you want Pence to do something, a majority of a state’s legislature would need to pass a resolution on send something starting they object and that here is the proper set of electors. That did not happen.
There were not 2 sets of electors as you said previously. There was one legitimate set signed off on in the manner designated by the state legislature through their designation of power to the executive branch. There was then the second set of people for Trump who voted for Trump but had no official sanction of the vote behind them. That second group is not a second set of electors and is meaningless. If a state legislature wanted to recognize them, they could have by a majority vote. None of them did that.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 6:54 am to No Colors
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I thought Trump had all the evidence already?
And: How much time does he need to lay it out? It's been nearly 4 months.
The f'n 'My Pillow' guy did a better job than the DOJ. The evidence is there; the Deep State and RINOs deep sixed it. And this Board and Trump Nation knows why. OMB...CCP Puppet Biden good.
The Transnational Progressives (Deep State/Dem Party) believe they are morally and practically superior. Therein, "whatever it takes". We'll see how their Totalitarian Ideology pans out. Herding cats as opposed to persuading them with HONEST dialogue is highly problematic; and will likely drive them to be pure Evil.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:03 am to RCDfan1950
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The evidence is there; the Deep State and RINOs deep sixed it. And this Board and Trump Nation knows why. OMB...CCP Puppet Biden good.
How did the deep state squash the evidence? Everyone has access to the internet. Just post it all there.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:16 am to Shamoan
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Pence let America down. Ultimately, he didn’t have the backbone, but he still seems to be a good man.
A good man doesn’t betray his country and it’s President (Trump).
A phony man who wants people to think he is a good man is what Pence.
And yes, I admit I was one of those that fell for his BS.
This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 8:54 am
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:33 am to Jjdoc
Why would Pence do anything because 117 random state legislators asked him to? They were not acting on behalf of or with the authority of their respective legislatures.
No state legislature requested anything from Pence, and no state sent two slates of electors.
No state legislature requested anything from Pence, and no state sent two slates of electors.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:37 am to Metaloctopus
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Lin Wood called Pence a traitor before he did this
Please tell me you dont still think this guy is credible
This post was edited on 2/14/21 at 7:38 am
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:53 am to No Colors
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How did the deep state squash the evidence? Everyone has access to the internet. Just post it all there.
I'd say that's a bit of an oversimplification of the matter. While we're at it, why wouldn't Dominion create a website of their own and lay it all out as to how and why the allegations involving their company are completely false? Ya know, for the purpose of reputation and its potential effect on future business....
I do believe it's because things like this aren't handled that way for a wide range of reasons.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:54 am to Shamoan
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Pence let America down. Ultimately, he didn’t have the backbone, but he still seems to be a good man.
Bad people have dirt on everyone. Pence is no different. Guarantee you they have pics of that fricking punk with his dick in some 10 yr old kid...or some other sick shite like that. Pence is no angel...he went that route at some point (no meetings with women alone) because he had fricked up somehow.
If he had the power to do this, and didnt, his fate will be to face the same God he claims to serve. The God he vowed to when being sworn into office
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:56 am to Jjdoc
We all know pence was a pussy, and now he will never get the nod from america to run for office.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:56 am to Dawgwithnoname
Probably should figure out how this works. First, the sole power to determine electors is with the legislature of each state. They pass laws for the election which includes granting the power to the executive branch to certify.
All the republicans that had control of the house and senate in GA or PA had to do was pass a law/resolution that they will determine the electors and send or not send this could have been done after the election.
As scotus said it is entirely their job
All the republicans that had control of the house and senate in GA or PA had to do was pass a law/resolution that they will determine the electors and send or not send this could have been done after the election.
As scotus said it is entirely their job
Posted on 2/14/21 at 7:57 am to JDGTiger
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Trump never did put together an effective government because he kept his cabinet in turmoil. Same for his re-election campaign. He wasn’t out there with grass roots efforts to counter the voter harvester army people like Stacey Abrams put together. He just wanted rallies of his supporters cheering for him instead of new voters. He kept people around him that told him what he wanted to hear.
His lost the popular vote by 7 million votes.
Why he did not run on his record of lowering taxes and ending wars and better funding black colleges I do not know.
Biden thanks you for your vote
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:00 am to Simplemaaan
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Then why did states certify in first place?
The arse hole from Georgia needs to be held accountable. The governor and his cohort SOS.
I voted for the arse hole.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:02 am to JDGTiger
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JDGTiger
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:05 am to JDGTiger
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His lost the popular vote by 7 million votes.
First they cheat. Then reinforce it with the cheated numbers.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:25 am to Jjdoc
There are over 7300 state legislators in the US.
These legislators certified the votes in their states and pence had a constitutional responsibility to count them. With all the frickery and nonsense going on in today’s politics, pence is the wrong battle to be fighting. If your objective is anything more than just blindly lashing out at what’s spoon fed in front of you, you will see this.
These legislators certified the votes in their states and pence had a constitutional responsibility to count them. With all the frickery and nonsense going on in today’s politics, pence is the wrong battle to be fighting. If your objective is anything more than just blindly lashing out at what’s spoon fed in front of you, you will see this.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:31 am to Dawgwithnoname
I don't know that he is entirely credible. But I do thinks he knows some things behind the scenes. He might be one of those grifters, but it doesn't look like he was lying about Pence.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:31 am to Jjdoc
Pence knew he was within the framework of the constitution to send key swing states electors home but he was not willing to risk his Swamp membership.
Posted on 2/14/21 at 8:32 am to idlewatcher
I didn’t vote for Biden and I have never voted for a democrat for President and I have been voting since 76. How many of you can say that?
You are ignoring facts if you think Trump ran a good campaign. He lost that election. A better run campaign would have carried a large enough margin the cheating wouldn’t have mattered.
No one, not even Trump or the quacks, is saying cheating produced a 7 million vote difference.
Move on. Decide if you are really a small government conservative or not and then focus on the 2022 mid terms.
You are ignoring facts if you think Trump ran a good campaign. He lost that election. A better run campaign would have carried a large enough margin the cheating wouldn’t have mattered.
No one, not even Trump or the quacks, is saying cheating produced a 7 million vote difference.
Move on. Decide if you are really a small government conservative or not and then focus on the 2022 mid terms.
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