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re: What Pence did and did not do. 117 state Legislators BEGGED him... and he refused

Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:20 am to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44232 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:20 am to
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No one, not even Trump or the quacks, is saying cheating produced a 7 million vote difference.


Your ignorance is stunning.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:24 am to
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The US Constitution states that it is the state legislatures that are charged with the election laws.


Your entire argument is based on this line which, of course, is 100% blatantly FALSE. Understand that this statement is false and your entire argument falls flat on its face.

Each state operates elections under their own constitutional guidelines, with the most common setup being that voters vote, precincts report to the Secretary of State, Secretary of State has a number of weeks to certify the results, handle recounts, legal challenges, etc. Once federal election votes are certified, those certified votes and their electoral voters are sent to DC to be counted.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:33 am to
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You are wrong.


Nope.

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While it is right he got the most "non white" he did nothing in the black urban areas after pandering to them for four years with money to HSBC and the like.



I am black. You are wrong! Period.

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Abrams did in fact get a LOT of votes out. Anything that would have slowed her down would have stopped Georgia for going blue.


Nothing was going to stop that due to the SOS changing election laws, Facebook putting millions into Blue areas for the expressed goal of harvesting boxes and the SOS signing an agreement with HER.

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She will be the next governor there if the republicans don't do something about mail in ballots and remote ballot boxes.


And Trump warned them. Don't blame that on TRUMP!

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Issues Trump should have been fighting in court in September.


He did. Your ignorance is showing again. Your hate is blinding you. Hundreds of lawsuits about voting were filed before the Nov. 3 election.

In Ga specifically, the AG, SOS signed an illegal deal rather than continue with court cases.

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Standing up in Tupelo or Pensacola or Macon or wherever to get the Jjdocs of the world excited did NOTHING to win the election.


Expanded the people that voted for him by MILLIONS!

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I know for a fact some of the crap you linked caused credibility issues with Trump (not necessarily because you linked them but because they were BS all along and got social media attention in a lot of places. Bannon, for example, said some incredibly stupid things and stated them as fact with no real back up.)



No you don't. Just like you have no idea on how many groups we have formed since the election in every swing state.

You are being ignorant.
Posted by JDGTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2020
650 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:36 am to
Trump couldn't get Rispone elected. He will not get anyone elected in 22 or 24. He might try to claim the coattails of successful candidates but I bet most successful republicans will try to keep him away from their campaigns.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:37 am to
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Your entire argument is based on this line which, of course, is 100% blatantly FALSE. Understand that this statement is false and your entire argument falls flat on its face.



Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36749 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:44 am to
Poster came in hot with that overtly inaccurate assessment, huh? Lol

I will say, his post can be made correct by the revision that basically all that was referenced does happen, more or less, but just in strict accordance with the laws that the state legislature has passed to achieve all those tasks and actions.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:19 pm to
everything you said in the op, i've been saying for weeks whenever election fraud deniers try to act like 80mil people voted for trump or judges threw the cases out or the "majority" of americans don't like trump.

AMERICANS - THESE POLITICIANS COULD NOT CARE LESS ABOUT YOU OR YOUR LIBERTY. they lecture YOU about what you're doing. they work for the VOTERS. until americans take their power back, the country will continue to be railroaded by these gaslighting, spineless, mealy mouthed bureaucrats
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:23 pm to
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If the states certify, the congress has to respect it
this, to me, is a significant misunderstanding. no one was talking about "overturning" the election. what people were asking for is INVESTIGATION. the election was not conducted in good faith, above board, with transparency. all tx was asking of scotus was to hold pa accountable to their election laws. that's it. but no one wanted to be seen as "undermining" elections. they were already undermined! they were already corrupted. the challengers were just asking for the illegitimacies to be corrected. if trump lost fair and square, so be it. but we'll never know if that's what actually happened. in fact, it looks like the opposite
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:25 pm to
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I thought Trump had all the evidence already?

And: How much time does he need to lay it out? It's been nearly 4 months.
sigh. here's another flat earther

go here
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:35 pm to
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LSU2ALA
all kinds of problems with your post

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Those 117 are not a majority in any state legislature
they don't have to be

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They don’t have the authority to speak for the legislature
that's not what's happening. they asked for investigation. they asked for the matter to be sent back to the states. they absolutely have authority to ask for that

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that carries no real weight
that's just it, it should have given the evidence that's been publicly available

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If you want Pence to do something, a majority of a state’s legislature would need to pass a resolution on send something starting they object and that here is the proper set of electors
where is that in writing?

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There was one legitimate set


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signed off on in the manner designated by the state legislature
debatable

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That second group is not a second set of electors and is meaningless
debatable

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If a state legislature wanted to recognize them, they could have by a majority vote
the fact of the matter is any person with half a brain could see what was going on - there were significant problems with the state elections that needed to be investigated. that is not "overturning" an election such that confidence is undermined. that is actually transparently verifying that what took place was actually legitimate, which it wasn't, and now we have an illegitimate administration occupying dc, eroding free speech and controlling the flow of information, questionably detaining people in their homes and using the vaccine as a way to control freedom of movement.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:37 pm to
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How did the deep state squash the evidence?
how many transparent, impartial, independent audits were conducted? i'll wait while you google that

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Just post it all there
already been done. and it's overwhelming. it seems you must have missed it. 2 months of daily posts citing videos and photos of irregularities. hundreds of eyewitnesses. statistical data. expert analysis
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:37 pm to
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Why would Pence do anything because 117 random state legislators asked him to?
to save the republic from inaugurating and illegitimate administration?
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
5968 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:38 pm to
I’m not surprised, but why did the SL certify of it wasn’t on the up and up?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:39 pm to
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As scotus said it is entirely their job
but the "job" wasn't done above board in a transparent fashion. that's what tx was asking scotus to do - hold them accountable. scotus punted. now we have a banana republic - rigged elections, occupied capitol, restricted movement, etc.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:42 pm to
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pence had a constitutional responsibility to count them
this is the 2nd time this has been stated yet, no one is showing where this is the law of the land

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pence is the wrong battle to be fighting
no, he's accountable for his part - that he abrogated

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If your objective is anything more than just blindly lashing out at what’s spoon fed in front of you
the people exercising healthy skepticism based on objective evidence of irregularities are the ones who are blind and brainwashed. not the people who keep repeating that biden got 80 mil votes because corrupt politicians told them so and won't show everyone the votes/investigations
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:45 pm to
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You are ignoring facts if you think Trump ran a good campaign
that's not the issue. evidence of fraud is the issue. regardless of what kind of campaign trump had

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He lost that election
prove it. show me the biden votes. prove that the evidence is wrong.

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No one, not even Trump or the quacks, is saying cheating produced a 7 million vote difference
first, you're assuming 7mil votes is any sort of real number. second, altogether, yes. that's EXACTLY what the challengers are saying - the questionable votes make the difference between winning and losing
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:46 pm to
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The VP couldn't just unilaterally cancel the electoral votes from these states that certified their electors
again, that's not what was being asked. pence absolutely could have done what was being asked. and should have.

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it would be a bad precedent
investigation is a "bad precedent?" since when?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:49 pm to
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pandering to them for four years with money to HSBC and the like
what other president "pandered" to that community like that? none. you can call it that, but he did more for them than pretty much any dem ever

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You are wrong
then explain how he got 70 mil people to show up in person during a virus outbreak and increased his support in pretty much all demographic categories
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4979 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 3:55 pm to
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I think Pence is a politician

100%
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6910 posts
Posted on 2/14/21 at 11:46 pm to
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I believe this is exactly the way it was supposed to turn out. This was another part of the game to wake the American people up as to how corrupt these politicians are in congress. Now with foreign countries playing in our election and with the democrats supposedly in control the people are beginning to wake up out of their dream state that they’ve been in. If you think it’s just about the United States you’re crazy. The entire world is in play with game. All hell is gonna break loose soon . I know all this sounds familiar with the wait til next month after month but I have a gut feeling the eyes of March will be big and that’s when all this will begin to explode.




Of course the whole world is at play. It's called globalism. I don't recall saying anything, otherwise. Unless you're talking to someone else, and just clicked reply on my comment.
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