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re: What causes you believe the USA can help UKRAINE win a war against RUSSIA ?

Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16486 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:22 pm to
The USA has not really tried to win a real war since WWII.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:23 pm to
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. Too much is at stake if Russia can just start taking over countries and territory


1) You Zelensky bros already claim Russia is a bumbling bunch of retards who can't launch a missile, yet youre worried about this?

Hypocrisy.

2) I imagine Russia looks at Ukraine and says the exact same thing about our involvement and installation of a puppet govt 8 years ago.

3) Welfare queens love welfare. Time for Europe to stand on its own.

Russia taking Ukraine will have no affect on us as a nation. It will have an affect on certain businessmen and weapons dealers.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26524 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:36 pm to
A great many Russian's don't want to fight or die for Putin's Peter the Great dreams.

The people of Ukraine are not only fighting for home and hearth, they have a huge score to settle with Moscow after Stalin's genocide.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16486 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:39 pm to
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The longer the war lasts, the more dents and dings we can give Russia.


Weaker US, weaker Russia.

Here, maybe these will help.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19987 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:42 pm to
Oh no ya done it now Roger, you Putin lover you, lol.

You are correct my friend.

I also love all the patriotism, soverign country bullshite being thrown around. 8 million Ukranians have fled the country, that a quarter of their population. If the US got in a war and 85 million of you fled to Mexico, would you think the war was popular, cause you have to believe if that many left the country, of those that remain, the majority of them dont want the fighting to continue either.

A small minority want this nonsense to continue, the MIC, the money launderers, the shoppers (aka the zelenskys), and some poor brainwashed souls on this site.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:44 pm to
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The people of Ukraine are not only fighting for home and hearth, they have a huge score to settle with Moscow after Stalin's genocide.


I wish them well, on their own.

Posted by Vito Andolini
Member since Sep 2009
1879 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:24 pm to
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he USA has not won a real war since WWII


What are you talking about, we kicked Grenada's arse...
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31531 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 3:58 pm to
Not against da Ruzzia!!
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6557 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 4:10 pm to
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love my country.


I can do without your love
Go Hug Putin and get pushed out a window
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Russia taking Ukraine will have no affect on us as a nation. It will have an affect on certain businessmen and weapons dealers.


BINGO and you left out politicians such as Biden, Kerry and Romney. Where else can their kids get 7 figure salaries for doing nothing?
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28587 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 5:08 pm to
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What causes you believe the USA can help UKRAINE win a war against RUSSIA ?

The US is assisting Ukraine regardless of anyone may believe. Can Ukraine repel the invasion? They’ve done a hell of a lot better than I thought they would at the beginning.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 6:44 pm to
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Joeybd
Odd. You are the one who seems consumed of hate

and ignorance
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 6:45 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44312 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 6:46 pm to
It isn’t about winning, it’s about making / stealing / laundering money.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 6:47 pm
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7662 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:20 pm to
Sometimes facts are even more consequencial than theories.

Yiddish and the Ukrainian–Jewish roots of the new U.S. Secretary of State



quote:
When Joe Biden is sworn in as the new President of the U.S., an important member of his government will be Antony (Tony) Blinken, who has been chosen as the next secretary of state. Tony Blinken has longstanding ties with Ukraine, and not just because he oversaw the situation in Ukraine after the Maidan in 2014–2016 in the Obama administration.

Meir Blinken, Tony Blinken’s great-grandfather, was born in 1879 in Pereiaslav, the birthplace of the famous Yiddish writer Sholem Aleichem. During his childhood, Meir had a Jewish education at the Talmud-Torah, a religious elementary school.

More in this this TD Thread...

TD
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22103 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:23 pm to
Cause Russia's military is complete arse and is losing hundreds of troops every day trying (and failing) to take over a country 1/10th it's size, which even with our current pussy version of the military we would have caused to collapse within a month even if Russia was helping them
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7928 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:23 pm to
Ukraine will not win the war. This is a money laundering scheme.

Winning a war requires unconditional surrender. Mass casualties. Civilian and military targets. Anything less will result in the same outcomes we’ve seen since 1945.

Neocons love Americans dying in vain. Demorats and rinos too.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12782 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:35 pm to
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They’ve done a hell of a lot better than I thought they would at the beginning.


I’m starting to think that NATO has been lying about a lot of Russian capabilities to push for more funding.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 1:49 am to
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Didn’t realize how much I could despise my fellow Americans

You wouldn’t if you were smart and knew how knew how evil the people in control of America are.

I pray daily that there are men like our Founding Fathers out there meeting and putting in the work to devise the strategy to drag every tyrant out and get the public hangings started and take our country back.

America is the bad guy... It’s a hard pill to swallow but the sooner you do the sooner we can save her.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 1:50 am
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55585 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 6:29 am to
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What causes you believe the USA can help UKRAINE win a war against RUSSIA ?

First, we don’t need to have Ukraine win the war in order to be successful. We are destroying Russia’s economy in a way that will take them at least a generation to recover. This is neutralizing our enemy. Even if they get a negotiated peace, with Russian control of some parts of Ukraine, we still will have been successful, just as we were in Vietnam.

The Vietnam War was fought, not to free Vietnam, but to stop the “Domino Effect” of countries falling to Communism. It’s often missed in discussions about the Vietnam War, but we stopped them. It didn’t matter much if that advance was stopped just short of Vietnam or just past it. We achieved our number one goal and defeated the advance of Communism.

The Vietnam War allowed us a 15 year period to build coalitions to resist the salespitch of the Commies.

When this Ukraine War is over Russia will be emasculated, and the NATO wave will wash right past them.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 6:31 am
Posted by Stonehog
Platinum Rewards Club
Member since Aug 2011
34155 posts
Posted on 1/21/23 at 6:38 am to
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When this Ukraine War is over Russia will be emasculated, and the NATO wave will wash right past them.


You’re right, there’s actually no way for Russia to survive, they just want to go out on their own terms. Their birth rates are too low and they have no immigration to replace their aging population. The country will cease to exist in the next 30-40 years.
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