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re: What causes you believe the USA can help UKRAINE win a war against RUSSIA ?

Posted on 1/19/23 at 5:30 pm to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
24857 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 5:30 pm to
Because Muh Perpetual Empire, Under God, Indivisible, Forever and Ever Amen!

Posted by Joeybd
Member since Oct 2022
544 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 5:34 pm to
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Burn it all down. Until our masses genuinely suffer,


You truly are a sorry excuse for an American citizen. I can only imagine how horrible your life is with this much hate and bile in your attitude.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3237 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 6:11 pm to
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can only imagine how horrible your life is with this much hate and bile in your attitude.


You should try imagining what GOD now thinks of the USA.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18634 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 6:29 pm to
If we were directly involved, we could definitely expel Russia from Ukraine within a week, imo.

But, we're not trying to really help Ukraine win. We're just trying to draw it out as long as possible. The longer the war lasts, the more dents and dings we can give Russia. It just sucks that we're sacrificing Ukrainian Patriots just so we can give Russia some dents and dings.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14820 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 6:35 pm to
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You truly are a sorry excuse for an American citizen. I can only imagine how horrible your life is with this much hate and bile in your attitude.


To be fair, you’d probably feel the same if you lived in Livingston Parish
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6554 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:32 pm to
Anyone who thought that the Ukraine could win this war with only logistical and material support from the west is an idiot. I don’t care if you are a 4 star general or any other military expert. At some point every ear boils down to how many armed PEOPLE you can bring to bear against your opponent. Ukraine doesn’t have enough , on its own, as it relates to Russia. The Nazis held all of European Russia at one point , but couldn’t hold on primarily due to lack of relative manpower (yes I know the armament production gap existed). The fact remains that Russia can sacrifice an endless supply of humans and not blink an eye. Ukraine has a finite number. At some point this number will be so low that they will be overwhelmed despite the supplies and technology the west provides.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17670 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:16 pm to
We have to help Ukraine try and win this war. Too much is at stake if Russia can just start taking over countries and territory that they think belongs to them. Things can escalate very quickly in territorial wars and helping Ukraine against Russia, and holding Russia accountable for their actions, without getting our military involved, is the best way to handle this. This thing was going to go two ways, and helping Ukraine is the lesser of two evils. You have to set your political opinions aside to see this for what it is.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:19 pm to
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sta4ever


Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
7732 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:21 pm to
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The USA has not won a real war since WWII. And we haven’t lost one either.


I don’t know what you call Vietnam and the humiliation of the Afghanistan pullout, but they sure as hell weren’t victories.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:29 pm to
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I don’t know what you call Vietnam and the humiliation of the Afghanistan pullout, but they sure as hell weren’t victories.


Just using the definition stated previously, it’s not a real war until Congress says it is.

Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:02 pm to
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We would then be falling back on our troops who are busy picking out nail polish colors and scheduling gender reassignment surgeries.



Unfortunately, it is now the mean, green woke machine. And with the current upper management, it is not going to get any better.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 11:36 pm to
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You have to set your political opinions aside to see this for what it is.


Heed your own advice.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:12 am to
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You truly are a sorry excuse for an American citizen. I can only imagine how horrible your life is with this much hate and bile in your attitude.

You’re a sorry excuse for an American if you think Putin is worse than the fckg evil deep state in control of America.

If you loved your country you wouldn’t be supporting these fckrs destroying us and other nations by 1000 cuts.

Burn it down… gut it and replace our govt with safe rails to ensure it never happens again.

That’s cute though if you think Putin is any more evil than our intelligence community.

Newsflash…. This isn’t the country we grew up in so wake up. I’m not like some German who would root for the Nazis just because Hitler was our leader. Fk all that.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 12:16 am
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2208 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:48 am to
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You’re a sorry excuse for an American if you think Putin is worse than the fckg evil deep state in control of America.


Didn’t realize how much I could despise my fellow Americans
Posted by Rex Feral
Somewhere near Athens
Member since Jan 2014
16616 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 5:56 am to
I don't. I think the military is getting rid of a bunch of outdated equipment, practicing shipping equipment around the world for a prolonged fight, ie in China, and testing new equipment in the field.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17428 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:00 am to
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We have to help Ukraine try and win this war. Too much is at stake if Russia can just start taking over countries and territory that they think belongs to them. Things can escalate very quickly in territorial wars and helping Ukraine against Russia, and holding Russia accountable for their actions, without getting our military involved, is the best way to handle this. This thing was going to go two ways, and helping Ukraine is the lesser of two evils. You have to set your political opinions aside to see this for what it is.



This, ladies and gentlemen, is what you call a prepackaged talking point
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
5666 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:16 am to
if anyone thinks that these jackals are in this to win
you must believe in the tooth fairy also
theyve got their war
billions to be broadcast amongst the MIC
with ZERO accounting
the best part is, no flag draped coffins coming home on c130s
win/win
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17670 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:20 am to
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You have to set your political opinions aside to see this for what it is.


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2020_reVISION


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Heed your own advice.


And I have. I have a lot of the same political opinions as you guys.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15762 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:15 am to
It is blatantly obvious that a lot of you had a really crappy elementary school education in history.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19987 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 2:19 pm to
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Think Russia fighting the Germans in ww2. And we helped this happen.


No think Germany invading Russia killing millions and we helped Russia.


This, many bring up the "cruelty" of the Russian troops. They remembered, very fresh in their memory what the Germans had done to millions of russian citizens.

Part of the anger also stemmed from the fact that once they got into Germany they saw how well the average german lived, FAR better than them, so why the fck were these people invading Russia to begin with?

As far as scorched earth, Id say LeMay firebombing repeatedly most cities in Japan (except for a few we kept pristine so when we dropped the bomb we could observe the damage) should rank up there worse than anything the Huns or Mongols did, but its kind of been whitewashed with time. He did 100 times the damage, and many times over the deaths of what the two bombs caused.

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