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re: Well kids, it’s not looking good for the home team

Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:26 am to
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17876 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:26 am to
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It’s not going to be socialism, but long-term, with the rise of AI and automation, you’re going to have to have some sort of UBI system because you’re not going to be able to maintain gainful employment for the majority of your population.



I do think there is some legitimacy to this. Something I've been wondering for a little while now, if because of AI and robotics companies are going to be able to manufacturer their products with little to no people which means not many people will have jobs.......... Who is going to buy their products?
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
7627 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:31 am to
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by Rip Torner


You’d do better not to infer meaning when context doesn’t do so.

Never said Dems were better, but saying that Dems would block Trump agenda when the reps don’t support it is all I was pointing out.

But congrats on angry typing two paragraphs this AM.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34619 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 8:58 am to
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Are we pretending that many/most people are unhappy with Trump now?

Now explain how socialist Bernie Sanders rose to the top of the DIM party? Trump had nothing to do with that. In fact, he was running in the opposite party at the time
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
18439 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:04 am to
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Brought to you by the President Hillary and Kamala polling groups.


Are we pretending that many/most people are unhappy with Trump now? Sky high fuel and food prices affect most people. Couple that with the reason for it, the quagmire in the middle east, and republicans are going to lose at least the house if not the senate.


I don't know ONE person who voted for Trump in 2024 and is ready to go out and vote Democrat because they are that unhappy with him. Most people who voted Trump understand that the Democrat alternative is MUCH worse. Anyone who doesn't understand that is a fricking moron and deserves everything they get if they vote Dem.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
13284 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:06 am to
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don't know ONE person who voted for Trump in 2024 and is ready to go out and vote Democrat because they are that unhappy with him. Most people who voted Trump understand that the Democrat alternative is MUCH worse. Anyone who doesn't understand that is a fricking moron and deserves everything they get if they vote Dem.


Switching to Dems isn't the issue. It's if people who voted for Trump will actually turn out vote for other Republicans or just not vote.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
18439 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:09 am to
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And it will bring about ruthless fascism.

Maybe there will be armed mobs of federal agents on the street wearing masks and maybe Americans will get beaten and shot.

Is that what you are envisioning?


Oh NOZ!!!! Muh ICE are "fascists," because they are enforcing long standing immigration law and "Americans," as in leftist commie America hating libtard nerds who hate this country and wake up crying every day that Trump was elected, think they can attack federal law enforcement agents, and fight with them while armed with deadly weapons, including vehicles and guns, and those federal law enforcement agents are 100% allowed to defend themselves and their lives. frick you and your crybaby commie comrades trying to gaslight and make it sound like federal storm troopers with no legal grounds to do so are just marching the streets and attacking random people for simply existing. Eat shite, you lying loser.
This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 9:29 am
Posted by wookalar1013
up ta camp
Member since Jun 2017
2651 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
112326 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:17 am to
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This ignores things like primaries.


Nope. It’s just the hard reality after them. Sorry.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Arrogant Dickweed
Member since Jun 2004
200295 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:18 am to
This is the effect of populism, always has been
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
76287 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:19 am to
lol, found the culprit, it’s retardation
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
112326 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:19 am to
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The greater the proportion sitting it out, the more enticing for someone to break the binary, and follow through.


Maybe so, but the fact still remains that a candidate like Trump only got elected by shoehorning himself into this binary framework.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
18439 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:21 am to
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Isn’t the current President using socialist policies anyways?


Oh totally, man. No difference between him and Mamdani.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
4436 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:25 am to
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Oh totally, man. No difference between him and Mamdani.


The guy he keeps inviting to the White House so he can publicly offer his support while calling him a great mayor with great potential?


Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
18439 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:26 am to
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Why not REPLACE IT WITH WHAT TOU ORIGINALLY PROMISED?


Trump is doing just about everything he campaigned on doing and told me he would do. Not sure where all you figs come from who claim he hasn't followed through on what he campaigned on. Seems like he would have never been able to satisfy you people. You wanted everything to be restored to perfect within a year of him being sworn into a four year team. Where did Trump EVER say, I will NEVER engage with another country militarily no matter what? If you want to cry about higher gas prices for a few months that's on you. I don't like it but I understand what the objective is with Iran and our country and the world will be much better off knocking those islamist terrorists off their throne.

Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
18439 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:27 am to
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going to war for Israel right?


Muh JOOs!!!!! REEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
18439 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:30 am to
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Oh totally, man. No difference between him and Mamdani.


The guy he keeps inviting to the White House so he can publicly offer his support while calling him a great mayor with great potential?



Totally, man. Trump LOVES Mamdani. Their best bros, didn't you know? Well, I guess he's maybe fourth in line after Putin, Bibi, and Epstein, right?
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
11128 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:48 am to
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The greater the proportion sitting it out, the more enticing for someone to break the binary, and follow through.

Maybe so, but the fact still remains that a candidate like Trump only got elected by shoehorning himself into this binary framework.


And is about to get bitch slapped for having lied about it. The problem isn’t the system, or that Trump broke the system. The problem isn’t that he lied to break the system - give us someone who isn’t a liar, and they’ll have a permanent majority.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
11128 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:49 am to
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Why not REPLACE IT WITH WHAT TOU ORIGINALLY PROMISED?

Trump is doing just about everything he campaigned on doing and told me he would do


Mother of God
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
105377 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:54 am to
It will be 100% once the socialists murder all of the non socialists
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
16072 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 9:57 am to
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It'd not surprising. We effectively have an international corporate oligarchy running our nation. We've sold our industry overseas and the middle class bullshite jobs are fading. Nearly every employment sector is being gently warned that AI will replace most if not all the need for workers. Meanwhile, foreign workforce continues to eat away at the remaining jobs. We have corporate monopolies dominating many sectors of our economy. Our press is almost fully owned by a small handful of them. Stock margins dictate everything, resulting in poor service, ethics and workforce treatment in the name of profit. Investor groups have contributed to inflating the housing market beyond the reach of most younger citizens. And now we're in yet another middle eastern war, fighting a proxy war with Russia and energy prices are skyrocketing.

This is what happens. People like to act like capitalism can't grow fangs and become a problem, but it does. And when it does, eventually another extremist reaction will answer. That's what you're seeing and if this country doesn't change something, it will eventually come to power.


What a lot of populist bullshite.

I could go through line by line, but it wouldn't do any good, so I'll just leave it at this: We live in the most comfortable society with the most opportunity for the most people in history, and in an economic context capitalism is by far mostly responsible for that.

And I don't think anyone "acts like capitalism can't grow fangs and become a problem." The most famous quote about it is, "Capitalism is the worst system possible. Except for all the others." It's just that the major problems with capitalism have pretty much been identified and dealt with already. Child labor, monopolies, etc. Sure, there might arguably be a monopoly here or there in a relatively new industry that hasn't been identified and had anti-trust laws applied to it yet, but we've already identified that problem and have the laws to control it.

The stuff you're talking about isn't a problem with capitalism, it's just populist whining and victimhood. You think we can perpetually exist in the 1950s when the aftermath of WWII catapulted us to the forefront of manufacturing because everybody else's factories had been bombed to rubble.

Well, they rebuilt.

And the unions that "negotiated" ridiculous wages for completely unskilled labor, that eventually drove (some) manufacturing out of the country (we're still #2 in the world behind China, still #1 in the world per capita), those were the opposite of capitalism.

No, you people addicted to victimhood (which is the majority of the country now) aren't reacting to a reality, you're reacting to a populist conspiracy victimhood fantasy.

Literally almost nothing you posted above it accurate, but it is right in line with the victimhood narrative. Again, I'd debunk it all, and have in various threads on here, some of which are still up, but it doesn't do any good. You people do not care about facts.

Like, at all.

If you can't be a victim, you can't enjoy conspiracy theories about being victimized. And y'all aren't giving that up for any fact in the world.
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