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re: Well kids, it’s not looking good for the home team

Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:35 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:35 am to
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and what do you do when that doesn't happen? Go to the demonstrably worse side?


Criticize the people who failed and demand the next ones actually implement the policies.

The problem is people like you melt when any legitimate criticism is offered and then use this irrational binary partisan brain rot meme like you did above.

There are more policy options than (1) Trump (2) The worst version of the Left that can be described.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10863 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:36 am to
I consider both parties reaction to deficit and debt to be demonstrably worse, as both are exactly the same. I’m not advocating “well let’s try the other side for a while”, as the other side is the same.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
68815 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:36 am to
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Socialism's Positive Rating Tops 40% for First Time


Looks like the globalist plot is working.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
68815 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:37 am to
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There are more policy options than (1) Trump (2) The worst version of the Left that can be described.


Nope. There aren't. Decades of US policy shows this to be true.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:38 am to
If you poll enough lefties like SFP you can get whatever number you want for socialism
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483286 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:39 am to
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Nope. There aren't.


Factually incorrect statement

Within Trump's own admin there are multiple voices. For an example look at the diesel export ban fiasco from yesterday.

Trump or one of his advisors came up with a retarded plan.

Ultimately, those with better policies and economic understanding had to wrestle Trump away from the retardation.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111868 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:39 am to
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There are more policy options than (1) Trump (2) The worst version of the Left that can be described.


No matter how hard anyone might try to pretend it away, general elections for Senators and House Members are basically always a binary choice.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
68815 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:40 am to
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Factually incorrect statement


Nope. It isn't.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60650 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:40 am to
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Well this is the product of the participation trophy generation who doesn't deserve shite and still gets it.

The participation trophy generation that could walk off the high school graduation stage and shake the boss man’s hand and get a good career with a pension and a 12k house that’s now worth a million dollars?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
86683 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:40 am to
It’s not going to be socialism, but long-term, with the rise of AI and automation, you’re going to have to have some sort of UBI system because you’re not going to be able to maintain gainful employment for the majority of your population.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483286 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:40 am to
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No matter how hard anyone might try to pretend it away, general elections for Senators and House Members are basically always a binary choice.


This ignores things like primaries.

The Senate race shitshow in Texas is a great example of this. There was a better option than Paxton in that second, binary scenario. Now it's terrible Paxton v. terrible Talafreako, and the DEM has a good chance to win
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
109371 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:40 am to
What’s not working for them? I see many young people who don’t buy into the woe is me you just described, acquiring wealth and homes at a younger age then it took myself and others my age. The ones I believe you are describing are the ones I am referring to being taught, that it’s not working and you should not have to work so hard to gain wealth, buy a home, get a good job, free healthcare, etc. the schools are full of professors and teachers pushing socialism and Marxism. To claim they have faded out due to time is laughable.

People that continuously hear the drum beat start to tap their toes in sync even if they are not intently listening. So, with the rise of social media and propaganda being blasted constantly on those sites it absolutely can and does influence thinking.

However, I have nephews, nieces, and my own kids who have surpassed me and others my age, and they are all under 40. Why? Because they didn’t buy into the garbage that things aren’t working. No, they chose to work hard and be more strategic in the paths they took. I see their friends doing the same.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483286 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:40 am to
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Nope. It isn't.


Why did you ignore an example from yesterday proving my point?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60650 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:41 am to
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It’s not going to be socialism, but long-term, with the rise of AI and automation, you’re going to have to have some sort of UBI system because you’re not going to be able to maintain gainful employment for the majority of your population.

We already have ubi but the b doesn’t stand for basic
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70739 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:41 am to
SFP and Roger have warned 10,000 times that right populism could easily flip left (Trump has a bunch of Dem tendencies, anyway, to begin with). Bernie was too old to get over the hump and the Dems rigged things against him, but the concern with Bernie is a charming young Dem would come along with his message and win.
This post was edited on 9/24/26 at 7:42 am
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
3658 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:42 am to
In general, the electorate is incredibly stupid so that’s not an excuse especially when the same people who crap on them are repeatedly reelected. Most Americans are accustomed to a comfortable life and will cling to any politician that promises to keep that going regardless of the cost, that cost is becoming too expensive.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
109371 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:42 am to
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It’s not going to be socialism, but long-term, with the rise of AI and automation, you’re going to have to have some sort of UBI system because you’re not going to be able to maintain gainful employment for the majority of your population.


This is an interesting issue that is coming fast for sure. Curious how it will play out.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
99570 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:42 am to
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Brought to you by the President Hillary and Kamala polling groups


No joke
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
142021 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:43 am to
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I've read the room, Democrats are fricking insane.



The democratic party, moving to Muslim socialism is stupid, but the Republicans are only hurting themselves instead of welcoming in moderate democrats.

This is a huge missed opportunity and you can blame Trump.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
142021 posts
Posted on 9/24/26 at 7:43 am to
No i didn't. Come on guys, open your eyes.
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