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re: Wealthy Atlanta suburb seeking to create "separate" police force to stop soaring crime

Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:16 am to
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64071 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:16 am to
Boohoo. Wealthy suburban moms thought they'd take their white privilege class and life would return to normal with trips to Starbucks in their range rovers. frick them. Absolutely no sense of self preservation.


They better stock up on their anxiety/depression meds and wine. fricking idiots.
Posted by BamaMamaof2
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
2650 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:25 am to
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I will say that Buckhead has undergone a transformation in the past 20 years, though


You are so right about that!

I remember growing up in Atlanta and going to Lenox for a shopping day with my mom and sisters, having lunch at the tea room in Neiman Marcus then crossing the street to go Sax at Phipps Plaza. It was so safe and we never worried about our safety.

Now I wouldn't dare go to either mall! There are shooting and car hijacking every other weekend down there.

I know Andrew Worrell, he goes to our church and I am very good friends with his brother. They are strong Bama supporters and devout Catholics. I have never discussed politics with them, but I would guess the family is Republican by a 60/40 margin.
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3786 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:31 am to
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...and the victim.


An oppressor can’t be a victim. Check your privilege whitey…
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85986 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:34 am to
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You're right; none.

I will say that Buckhead has undergone a transformation in the past 20 years, though.

It used to be old white people who lived and shopped there and young white yuppie people who worked and partied there.

Then around the turn of the century things began to change somewhat. Old white people still lived and shopped there and young white people still worked and partied there.

But the nightlife scene started attracting more and more minority element. With money, of course. Lots of Cadillac Escalades, baggy dark black jeans, and tiparillos among the previously exclusively khaki slacks, martinis, and Lexuses. Nothing wrong with law abiding minority citizens mixing in the neighborhood.

But then that crowd began to attract minorities without so much money. They couldn't afford to go to the expensive clubs on Saturday night, so instead they would hang out at Lennox Square and Phipps Plaza for free.

Then shootings started to happen at the malls. Gangs started roaming around Buckhead.

This happened over a long period of time, of course. Not overnight.

But it's become quite a strange place. You're right. There's not a ghetto within quite a distance of Buckhead, but for some reason it attracts a criminal element that doesn't mind the commute.



All of this. Atlanta is one big attractive nuisance where profiling doesn't really exist because there are black people with real money. So thugs from Chattanooga and Montgomery and down the road in Douglasville or Riverdale come to Buckhead and just...

Loiter. Seriously they just walk around the mall doing absolutely nothing or sit out front or hang out on Pharr Road (arguably the closest thing to a Buckhead ghetto).

West Midtown/West Buckhead, which is literally on the border of the biggest slums in Atlanta, manages to sustain less bleedover crime. Because the restaurants and bars in those areas are weird, low-key, hipster, etc.

You open a luxurious lounge in Atlanta and don't price it through the roof? You're asking for trouble. Even the St. Regis attracts a shitty crowd sometimes, and it's arguably the most upscale bar in the city.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7581 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:37 am to
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But then that crowd began to attract minorities without so much money. They couldn't afford to go to the expensive clubs on Saturday night, so instead they would hang out at Lennox Square and Phipps Plaza for free.


This happened to the Riverchase Galleria in Hoover Alabama. Once a very nice mall and now not so much. The same exact scenario has occurred in Hoover over the last 20 years.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39560 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:38 am to
Elections have consequences.

Cheating or not, everyone suffers when you have shitty leaders.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46083 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:42 am to
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Wealthy Atlanta suburb seeking to create "separate" police force to stop soaring crime


You are on step 2, Atlanta
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28115 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:55 am to
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Loiter. Seriously they just walk around the mall doing absolutely nothing or sit out front or hang out on Pharr Road


Where on Pharr Road? Is there subsidized apartments?

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West Midtown/West Buckhead, which is literally on the border of the biggest slums in Atlanta, manages to sustain less bleedover crime. Because the restaurants and bars in those areas are weird, low-key, hipster, etc.


West Midtown is "hipster" territory? I don't think all those new high end restaurants off Howell Mill and West Marietta are catering to hipsters...maybe a younger clientele but I wouldn't say hipsters.

BTW,are you referring to the old "Bluff" area when referring to the "worst slums?" You do know that area is being torn down and gentrified as well,correct? And I'm not sure which slums you're referring to the boarder on "West Buckhead"

Sounds like oversimplification but when the Lenox Road exit was opened off 400 in the mid 90's it gave easy access to Buckhead and was far more detrimental than the Lennox Marta station.

You don't see the same issues with Virginia Highland partially due to the fact that there isn't easy access to the area off any interstates.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85986 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:04 am to
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Where on Pharr Road? Is there subsidized apartments?



There are subsidized apartments on Pharr Road. There are also shitty generic lounges and other hangouts.

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West Midtown is "hipster" territory? I don't think all those new high end restaurants off Howell Mill and West Marietta are catering to hipsters...maybe a younger clientele but I wouldn't say hipsters.



It's not hipster anymore but my point is it's trendy/low key, etc. It's not plush/luxurious/etc. in a way that attracts rappers and the like.

As for Vine City and English Avenue and Bankhead, I think "torn down and gentrified" is pretty generous. It's very much still the hood, WFA and Chick-fil-A and whatnot aside.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7045 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:08 am to
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Buckhead is a suburb or a neighborhood?


Buckhead is an in town neighborhood. It is not a suburb.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
50886 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:18 am to
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West Midtown is "hipster" territory? I don't think all those new high end restaurants off Howell Mill and West Marietta are catering to hipsters...maybe a younger clientele but I wouldn't say hipsters.

Up until last week I lived there for 12 years.

It’s hipster nation.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:44 am to
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Watch Tulsa now, unfortunately


Had family that were born and raised in Tulsa. Dad moved out but an Uncle stayed. Used to spend summers there and thought it was a beautiful city. Easy to get around, clean, relatively peaceful.

Then I noticed a few years back that First 48 had Tulsa as a regular feature and saw the foolish thuggery resulting in murder. It made me sad.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 9:45 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80006 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:06 am to

Leftists never take human motivation into account when they make policy.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75199 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:07 am to
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Those frickers gave us biden.


Wanna buy a bridge?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75199 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:12 am to
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There are subsidized apartments on Pharr Road.


Hell, the middle half of The Twelve in Atlantic Station is Section 8.

Hotel on the first 12 floors, Section 8 in the middle, and $600k condos right on top of that.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28115 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:34 am to
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Up until last week I lived there for 12 years.



And I lived there for 15+ years.

Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8116 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:39 am to
If they were carrying and defended themselves the DA would have come after them. Admiral Akbar is screaming at you. You should listen.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32438 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:44 am to
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Hell, the middle half of The Twelve in Atlantic Station is Section 8.


That wasn’t Twelve, that was the Atlantic across the street (which wasn’t Section 8 either, but had a ton of rentals until a few years ago)
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12586 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:54 am to
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it's getting worse and worse and worse



It's just getting started.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75199 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:56 am to
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That wasn’t Twelve, that was the Atlantic across the street


I might be misremembering, but I could've sworn it was The Twelve, due to the hotel wrinkle. I did the sprinkler inspection for all of the units there, in my previous capacity.
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