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Washington Post Defends Marx – “Five Myths About Socialism”

Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:07 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:07 am
quote:

MYTH NO. 1
Socialism is a single coherent ideology.

…socialism has multiple meanings and interpretations, which have to be disentangled before a discussion about its merits can begin.

MYTH NO. 2
Socialism and democracy are incompatible.

After the Russian Revolution, a commitment to democracy became a key distinction dividing socialists from communists.

MYTH NO. 3
All socialists want to abolish markets and private property.

Communists, when in power, have done away with markets and private property. Democratic socialists say that in principle they hope capitalism will disappear over the long run, but in the meantime they advocate piecemeal changes in the ownership and control of economic resources — bank nationalization, for instance.

MYTH NO. 4
When socialism is tried, it collapses.

Communism certainly failed, but social democracy has arguably been the single most successful modern ideology or political movement.

MYTH NO. 5
Socialism offers a ready-made solution to numerous current problems.



Btw.... the author is teaching the future this crap in colleges.


LINK
Posted by Athis
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:11 am to
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70105 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:13 am to
quote:

socialism has multiple meanings and interpretations, which have to be disentangled before a discussion about its merits can begin.



Why are these people so intent on fricking up the language?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260008 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:13 am to
quote:

socialism has multiple meanings and interpretations,


Only to the propagandist.
Posted by USA Dan
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:13 am to
This post was edited on 3/2/19 at 10:15 am
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:17 am to
Wtf is wrong with these people? Can a little lib on here explain why in the hell are y’all dead set on something that has NEVER worked?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16716 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Communism certainly failed,


This is the biggest subtle lie in the piece.

Communism requires complete dissolution of any central government and society is truly run by the collective population.

It’s never been attempted. So it can’t have failed.

What they are trying to do is a bait and switch.

“Oh look. It’s communism that’s failed! Socialism is good!!!”

Socialism is a necessary step for communism. Government control for redistribution and equality. Then the gov is supposed to dissolve for self rule.

It never gets there because socialism doesn’t build wealth. It drives it away and the system collapses.

No one ever gets to true Communism.
This post was edited on 3/2/19 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101312 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:19 am to
quote:


Wtf is wrong with these people? Can a little lib on here explain why in the hell are y’all dead set on something that has NEVER worked?



To replace something that is working pretty fricking well right now.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146574 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:20 am to
SEE my rant thread I just posted. It is a definite push.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27271 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:21 am to
Goebbels defends nazis...

Water is wet
Posted by Alcubierre
Member since Nov 2015
30 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:31 am to
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39404 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:34 am to
Classic leftist media.

What you know is not real. What you believe isn’t founded. Your mind and heart have lied to you, so let us tell you what’s truth.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51896 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:40 am to
MYTH NO. 3
quote:

All socialists want to abolish markets and private property.


quote:

Democratic socialists say that in principle they hope capitalism will disappear over the long run, but in the meantime they advocate piecemeal changes in the ownership and control of economic resources — bank nationalization, for instance.


Oh so they won’t want it, they just hope for it, in principle.

Thanks for clearing up that particular myth!
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
17692 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:42 am to
quote:

No one ever gets to true Communism.



A kibbutz would really be true communism which you speak so you are essentially correct. Problem is the kibbutz is very homogeneous and comprised of like minded hard working individuals. The Soviet communism was a authoritarian dictatorship that forced misery amongst all its population in order to maintain control.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260008 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Communism requires complete dissolution of any central government and society is truly run by the collective population.

It’s never been attempted. So it can’t have failed.



I think communism could work on a very small scale for a short amount of time, until someone gets a taste of power.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Washington Post Defends Marx 


The Washington Post, owned by Jeff Bezos, one of the great Capitalists of our time. Socialism is just a means to an end with people like Bezos. I'd be shocked if he really believed in the tenets of Socialism. What he's interested in is the destruction of America as we know it, and Socialism is just a smokescreen for governmental control, where the First Amendment rights of conservatives are suppressed, where Second Amendment rights are abolished, etc.
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
8686 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:43 am to
WRONG WAPO. No such thing as social Democracy.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11429 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:47 am to
These people and many of them are elected to congress are traitors and dangerous people. They need to be ousted.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13316 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:49 am to
quote:

in the meantime they advocate piecemeal changes in the ownership and control of economic resources — bank nationalization, for instance.


How about a nice visit to the DMV equivalent when the bank screws up and overdrafts your account? Good luck telling the government they screwed up, and to fix it. Anyone who would consider this for more than a second should be committed to the nearest mental institution.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34949 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:49 am to
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