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re: Virginia police officers threatened Army Lt. during stop (Body Cam footage included)
Posted on 4/10/21 at 12:34 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 4/10/21 at 12:34 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
Gutierrez told Nazario he was “fixin’ to ride the lightning,” a reference to the electric chair which was also a line from the movie “The Green Mile,” a film about a Black man facing execution.
What a stretch.
He was also a magic BIPOC. Couldn't find a way to work that into the story?
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 12:40 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
We should ALWAYS just do whatever cops ask us to do. Anyone who does not ... that person MUST have something to hide
Being asked to step out of your car isn't an infringement of your rights.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 12:48 pm to imjustafatkid
Have you ever been asked to step out of your car?
Posted on 4/10/21 at 12:49 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
It was less than a mile, and Nazario had slowed to well-below the speed limit and was driving with his turn signal activated on the largest thoroughfare in the thriving metropolis of Windsor, Virginia.
Cops being cops.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 12:52 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:
What was recorded ini that video is inexcusable - or it would take a lot of explaining to justify it.
I see nothing from the body cam that justified the treatment - it would be good to know what the basis of the stop was - unless the occupant had been identified as some kind of rabid terrorist who had been seen perpetrating/preparing some vicious attack.
Lacking that - the officers should be seriously sanctioned - loss of job at absolute minimum.
They declared it a felony stop because the driver drove the extra mile to the gas station. Because all felons drive to a well lit spot with cameras.
The younger cop should get just retraining. He seemed to be following the lead of the senior officer, who should be fired immediately.
Obviously training goes sideways after the academy under these "training officers."
Posted on 4/10/21 at 12:54 pm to GnashRebel
quote:Barney Fife, we are still waiting for the video of this desperate chase past multiple lighted parking lots .....
You can see the streetlights in the video goober
Posted on 4/10/21 at 1:04 pm to AggieHank86
4 more pages to not give a shite about
Posted on 4/10/21 at 1:10 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
Boot licking is un-American.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 1:15 pm to BhamDore
You calling anyone a boot licker after sharing a story that culminated with you literally laying down on pavement at the request of a cop is peak clown.
You’re a pussy that wears $800 sweaters grandma bought.
You’re a pussy that wears $800 sweaters grandma bought.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 1:29 pm to BhamDore
quote:
If that was what you got from the video I can't even take you seriously.
You think it's ok for paid public servants to tell citizens they should be afraid to get out of the car?
You thinks it's ok for paid public servants to feign fear in order to justify spraying an man with his hands visibly out the window with pepper spray.
Based on the actions of these officers I would say the LTs fear was justified.
2 low iq officers, 1 morbidly obese with a propensity to escalate to violence.
None of your post addresses or explains the fact that an officer in the US army willfully disobeyed a police officer's instruction. Unless there's something we aren't seeing, the police had every right to handle this man roughly.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 1:35 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
By the time they were pulling their weapons, they were in a lighted area and could see the temporary tags in the window. Standard procedure for a traffic stop is to NOT exit the vehicle, so the driver was behaving properly by NOT exiting the vehi
No standard procedure is to follow the officer's lawfull commands.
Said "shavetail" did not follow instructions, period.
He escalated the response
Posted on 4/10/21 at 1:39 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Since when is asking you to step out of your car the same as a warrantless search?
Well, it is not the same. Merely analogous.
We should ALWAYS just do whatever cops ask us to do. Anyone who does not ... that person MUST have something to hide.
Seems clear to me.
During a traffic stop its always in your best interest to obey all lawful commands. A search without a warrant is not a lawful command. But I'm sure you already knew that.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 1:41 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
The officers shouted conflicting orders at Nazario, telling him to put his hands out the window while also telling him to open the door and get out,
this bullshite has LITERALLY killed innocent people
Posted on 4/10/21 at 1:47 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
how far did he drive looking for a lighted area” after the cop signaled him? A couple of minutes or 40 miles?
valid question - and the manner of driving up until he found the lighted area??
However nothing in the video alludes to any of that - and the instructions were clearly counter realistic. You cannot "unlatch your seat belt" or 'get out of the car" and "keep your hands out of the window." That alone is enough for the occupant to fear for his life - given the escalation of the police's approach.
Until more facts, I am firmly on the side of the driver here - and the explanation of the cause of arrest makes it even more so. These cops got some 'splainin' to do.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 1:50 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Before today, if someone were to have said that I was about to “ride the lightning” I would not have had the slightest idea what he was babbling about. I suspect that Nazario experienced much the same confusion.
So, I ran a search. The results were split about evenly between (1) execution by electrocution and (2) a Metallica song... about execution by electrocution.
No references AT ALL to tasers
So, if someone were pointing a taser at you and said you're about to ride the lightning you would think he was telling you that you are about to immediately face a capital jury trial, a verdict and about 10 years of mandatory appeals before being electrocuted for a traffic stop?
At times I think you are smarter than that but then I read shite like this...
Posted on 4/10/21 at 2:00 pm to Jeauxs Geaux
quote:I simply said that I was unfamiliar with the “ride the lightning” term. I certainly did NOT say that I associated the term with the electric chair.
then I read shite like this
I suggest you read more-closely before firing-off your responses.
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 4/10/21 at 2:06 pm to coachcrisp
2 screaming officers with guns drawn told him to place his hands out the window. He did.
The commands after that conflicted with the original command and would have him put his hands back into the vehicle out of plain sight. This would have allowed them to "justifiably shoot him"
He did the correct thing. You can pretend to not understand, but he verbalizes that he did not feel safe to even reach for his seatbelt to the officers. Which is understandable when you are being screamed at and held at gunpoint.
If the police had every right then he won't receive a dime and we will all find out once the civil suit is litigated. More than likely they will settle for a large amount because the officers were clearly wrong.
The commands after that conflicted with the original command and would have him put his hands back into the vehicle out of plain sight. This would have allowed them to "justifiably shoot him"
He did the correct thing. You can pretend to not understand, but he verbalizes that he did not feel safe to even reach for his seatbelt to the officers. Which is understandable when you are being screamed at and held at gunpoint.
If the police had every right then he won't receive a dime and we will all find out once the civil suit is litigated. More than likely they will settle for a large amount because the officers were clearly wrong.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 2:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
this bullshite has LITERALLY killed innocent people
Daniel Shaver comes to mind. His murderer being one of the best examples of a cop that belongs in prison but got acquitted.
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 4/10/21 at 2:12 pm to AggieHank86
quote:RA for NSFW tag. That was absolutely horrific
AggieHank86
24 should press charges.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 2:14 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:
24 should press charges
And couldn't you have guessed that he's coached by Bobby Hurley.
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