re: Virginia police officers threatened Army Lt. during stop (Body Cam footage included)

I'd like to hear the real reason that military officer didn't follow police instruction, and get out of his truck to begin with.
I'd hate to think that a Lt.in military uniform didn't have enough intelligence to do what the police told him to begin with. Something's not right about this!

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How many were justified? 

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Can't take the justified stats seriously when shootings like Daniel Shaver and Philando Castille were ruled justified.

Stats from the US government about how many citizens were killed by government agents are about as reliable as China's Corona death numbers.

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Even with thousands of stops and interactions per day we still get a video where the driver is obviously trying his best to not comply but still remain the victim. Childish really

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If that was what you got from the video I can't even take you seriously.

You think it's ok for paid public servants to tell citizens they should be afraid to get out of the car?

You thinks it's ok for paid public servants to feign fear in order to justify spraying an man with his hands visibly out the window with pepper spray.

Based on the actions of these officers I would say the LTs fear was justified.

2 low iq officers, 1 morbidly obese with a propensity to escalate to violence.

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Power trip.

Most of them got stuffed in lockers in HS from what I can tell.

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This is spot on. A dufus I went to high school with became a cop just so he could back at all the other dufuses that used frick with him at school. I've had other people from everywhere tell me similar stories, so I don't think it was an isolated case by any means.

What was recorded ini that video is inexcusable - or it would take a lot of explaining to justify it.

I see nothing from the body cam that justified the treatment - it would be good to know what the basis of the stop was - unless the occupant had been identified as some kind of rabid terrorist who had been seen perpetrating/preparing some vicious attack.

Lacking that - the officers should be seriously sanctioned - loss of job at absolute minimum.

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it would be good to know what the basis of the stop was

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Lack of a rear license plate. It was a new vehicle and had a temp plate 8n the rear window, which the officer could not see at night. It became clearly-visible when the vehicle entered the lighted parking lot.

MY question is “how far did he drive looking for a lighted area” after the cop signaled him? A couple of minutes or 40 miles?

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Based on the actions of these officers I would say the LTs fear was justified.

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I can’t take you seriously for this. That’s like believing a tired four year olds temper tantrum

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Unless the tantrum was thrown in fear of someone who turned out to be an ACTUAL child abuser ....

Both those dudes should be fired. They escalated that to an unreasonable level.

The guy was calm and explained he was afraid to get out and I'm assuming afraid to reach anywhere below the window to unlock the door or take his seat belt off.

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Plenty of people are dead trying to obey conflicting commands from multiple officers.

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This is a lie. Please provide statistics. Bet if you do they are insignificant next to the number of stops that take place.

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Drove past other well lit places

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Please provide a link. I asked earlier how far the guy drove, and got no substantive response.

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Found the civil Complaint.

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On or around December 5, 2020, at approximately 18:34, Defendant Crocker initiated a traffic stop of Lt. Nazario on US 460 westbound in the Town of Windsor, near the Food Lion, where the speed limit is 35 miles per hour, by activating his emergency lights. ... Within seconds, Lt. Nazario submitted to Defendant Crocker’s display of authority and began to slow down. Lt. Nazario also activated his turn signal, to signal his compliance with Crocker’s implied directive to pull over. Crocker admits in real time that Lt. Nazario was complying, by relaying to dispatch that Lt. Nazario was slowing down. ... It was dark, however, and it appeared to Lt. Nazario that there was no good location in the immediate vicinity to stop safely. ... Lt. Nazario continued slowly down US 460, below the posted speed limit, for a less than under a mile, until he spotted a well-lighted BP gas station. He pulled over in the parking lot.

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Drove past other well lit places. How does a cop no why you refuse to stop?

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Perhaps the better question is, why should a police officer assume someone traveling at a low rate of speed who does eventually pull over is trying to evade them just because they passed a possible area to stop previously?

Generally speaking, people trying to get away from the cops or are planning on resisting arrest aren’t traveling 20 MPH and eventually stop of their own volition. There’s a big difference between someone who could have stopped sooner and someone trying to avoid getting stopped at all.

The cops were unjustifiably aggressive from the start because they made an unfounded and frankly illogical assumption. They treated that man as if he had just led them on a high speed chase and only stopped because his tire blew out.