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re: Virginia police officers threatened Army Lt. during stop (Body Cam footage included)
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:24 am to ECOTIGER
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:24 am to ECOTIGER
quote:
What if the cop tells you to put on your mask?
Will you "just comply"?
If a cop is issuing lawful orders then you comply. Pretty simple.
We can debate unconstitutional mask mandates in another thread because it really doesn't have shite to do with this one.
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Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:50 am to the808bass
quote:Are you serious?
Officers being feloniously killed are a statistical anomaly. If police interactions are justified by those, then citizen interactions are justified by police bad actors.
That's the most asinine thing I've ever read on this board! When is the last time you heard of a cop asking someone to get out of their vehicle and they complied while being unarmed, THEN the cop immediately executes them?
You really need to educate yourself regarding law enforcement procedures and the pressures cops can experience while simply doing their jobs.
Don't be that naive!
This post was edited on 4/11/21 at 8:51 am
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:54 am to Mickey Goldmill
Inspired by having a governor who wears a hood and sheet.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:56 am to ECOTIGER
quote:How old are you?...12?..13?
What if the cop tells you to put on your mask?
Will you "just comply"?
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:06 am to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:
People like Mr. Nazario have perfected the art of non compliance while pretending to be a victim.
"Put your hands out the window and turn off the car"
Why did you shoot him officer?
"cause we told him to put his hands outside the window and he made a sudden movement back into the car as if to reach for a weapon".
OK case closed he didn't comply
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:08 am to captainFid
quote:
Yet, as an active duty lieutenant in the military (who's been yelled at more than once, I assume), who supposedly knows how to respect authority ... pulls this kind of behavior? Please.
I thought the two officers were fine. Remember, they stated he was trying to elude police.
We can disagree respectfully, but I totally disagree with you. It was within his rights to be in a well lit place for the interaction to occur. Running from the police and finding a lit area for safety areb2!different things.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:10 am to supadave3
I hear radio commercials telling women if your nervous being pulled over at night make sure its in a well lite area 
But also to call 911 and tell them what you are doing and why.
But also to call 911 and tell them what you are doing and why.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:14 am to coachcrisp
quote:This cop tried, but luckily he was a horrible shot.
When is the last time you heard of a cop asking someone to get out of their vehicle and they complied while being unarmed, THEN the cop immediately executes them?
Philando Castile comes to mind as well...
This post was edited on 4/11/21 at 9:20 am
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:14 am to coachcrisp
quote:
When is the last time you heard of a cop asking someone to get out of their vehicle and they complied while being unarmed, THEN the cop immediately executes them?
You really need to educate yourself regarding law enforcement procedures and the pressures cops can experience while simply doing their jobs.
Don't be that naive!
just going to leave this here... Youtube video
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:15 am to goatmilker
quote:This post is the perfect example of excuse making for something one's already made up their mind about. The cops stayed at a distance from the truck while continually telling the guy to "step out of the truck". HE WOULD NOT COMPLY!
"Put your hands out the window and turn off the car"
Why did you shoot him officer?
"cause we told him to put his hands outside the window and he made a sudden movement back into the car as if to reach for a weapon".
OK case closed he didn't comply
It's just that simple!
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:18 am to coachcrisp
Just commenting on that line of instruction from the cop.
Are those good instructions to give someone when guns are drawn or not?
Or will you not answer that one simple question?
Are those good instructions to give someone when guns are drawn or not?
Or will you not answer that one simple question?
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:21 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:My GOD!
quote:
When is the last time you heard of a cop asking someone to get out of their vehicle and they complied while being unarmed, THEN the cop immediately executes them?
You really need to educate yourself regarding law enforcement procedures and the pressures cops can experience while simply doing their jobs.
Don't be that naive!
The man dove back into his car! Did you want to cop to wait until he turned back around with a gun in his hand?
This video is a great example of how dangerous law enforcement's job is, and WHY it's so important to COMPLY with a cop's instructions.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:25 am to coachcrisp
quote:The cop admitted he was wrong, was fired, and sentenced to prison. What does it take for you to admit this cop was wrong?
My GOD!
The man dove back into his car! Did you want to cop to wait until he turned back around with a gun in his hand?
This video is a great example of how dangerous law enforcement's job is, and WHY it's so important to COMPLY with a cop's instructions.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:31 am to Mickey Goldmill
When a policeman says "get out of the car", you simply get out of the car!
It is obvious this idiot was looking to push the "defund police" narrative....
This crap will go on until it is stopped, forcefully!
It is obvious this idiot was looking to push the "defund police" narrative....
This crap will go on until it is stopped, forcefully!
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:32 am to goatmilker
quote:You need to put your post into context. this was said after the cops waited at a distance for a long period of time waiting for the man to comply. When he didn't, things naturally became more intense when they had to approach the truck. Even though the "wording" could have been made clearer, the pressure of the moment (brought on by the noncompliance) could have been alleviated if the man had just asked the officer what he wanted him to do first...you saw the cop reach inside the cab to open the door while the confrontation was going on.
Just commenting on that line of instruction from the cop.
Are those good instructions to give someone when guns are drawn or not?
Or will you not answer that one simple question?
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:37 am to mmcgrath
quote:Can you honestly tell me what YOU would have done if you'd been in that cop's position?
The cop admitted he was wrong, was fired, and sentenced to prison. What does it take for you to admit this cop was wrong?
I'm pretty sure there was plea bargain somewhere in all that, and again, Imo it is an excellent example of why people should immediately comply when stopped.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:40 am to coachcrisp
Thanks for answering. Although I disagree with the context part. Cops in that situation MUST give clear instructions to avoid things going bad.
Also as I said in my post a driver wanting to pull over in a lit area should always call 911 to let them know what and why they are doing.
I think the cop over-reacted and the driver should have called 911. JMO.
Also as I said in my post a driver wanting to pull over in a lit area should always call 911 to let them know what and why they are doing.
I think the cop over-reacted and the driver should have called 911. JMO.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:50 am to coachcrisp
quote:The younger cop that did that was clearly trying to diffuse the situation at that point and didn't see the Lt. as a threat. The senior cop told him to step aside so he could pepper spray the driver. Ironically that seemed to cause the senior cop a lot of issues as well.
.you saw the cop reach inside the cab to open the door while the confrontation was going on.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:51 am to goatmilker
quote:
I think the cop over-reacted and the driver should have called 911. JMO.
Are you kidding me! Calling 911 would have dispatched more policeman....
These policemen acted in a professional manner. The driver did NOT cooperate and the entire fiasco is the drivers fault.
Posted on 4/11/21 at 9:51 am to goatmilker
quote:If you watched the first part of both videos, you noticed how the 2 cop cars stayed away from the truck while repeatedly telling the LT to "step out of the truck". His noncompliance set off all kinds of bells to those cops. It's certainly not beyond the pale for the guy to have a weapon on the front seat, and the only way to be even remotely safe would be for him to comply with their FIRST command.
Thanks for answering. Although I disagree with the context part. Cops in that situation MUST give clear instructions to avoid things going bad.
Also as I said in my post a driver wanting to pull over in a lit area should always call 911 to let them know what and why they are doing.
I think the cop over-reacted and the driver should have called 911. JMO.
Watch the other video on this page to see a quite different possible outcome.
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