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Van Jones on Trump win: ‘It turned out we were the idiots’

Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:51 am
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90554 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:51 am
Jones bemoaned that many Democrats and mainstream media outlets were “laughing at Trump for throwing away his ground game and doing weird stuff online.”

“It turned out we were the idiots,” he continued. “We woke up in a body bag because while we were knocking on doors, they were making these phones into 24-hour-a-day political weapons for themselves.”

Trump won handily Tuesday, sweeping the seven swing states after weeks of spurning interviews with mainstream media outlets. He opted instead for appearances on popular podcasts and internet programs — including Joe Rogan’s and other shows with audiences predominantly made up of young men, a voting bloc the GOP candidate aggressively courted.

The Election Day losses have sparked much soul-searching and finger-pointing within the Democratic Party, which is attempting to regroup and chart a new path forward after Trump become the first Republican presidential candidate since 2004 and just the second since 1988 to win the popular vote. LINK
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
39454 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:52 am to
" we got ran over by a train"


~Van Jones
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
3968 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:53 am to
Damned ole train*
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
14128 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:54 am to
Not just that, he's missing the impact of Scott Presler and Turning Point. GOP had a massive ground game to turn out low propensity voters, and it worked.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10994 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:54 am to
very simple,,,,,the fact that Kamala was very, very stupid did not help
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73070 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:55 am to
I know TP was doing campus visits all over but what did Scottie P do? I just haven’t followed him at all.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26700 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:55 am to
quote:

while we were knocking on doors


I don’t know a single person who doesn’t HATE when someone unsolicited knocks on their door. It would make me LESS likely to vote for their candidate.
Posted by Sponge
Member since Nov 2018
4822 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:55 am to
quote:

We woke up in a body bag because while we were knocking on doors, they were making these phones into 24-hour-a-day political weapons for themselves.

Republicans were knocking on doors, too.

Elon Musk and Scott Presler have repeatedly explained how they helped turn Pennsylvania.
Posted by T Lasso
Member since Aug 2021
506 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:56 am to
He won bc people are done with woke culture

/thread
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24917 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:56 am to
quote:

throwing away his ground game


What is this idiot talking about? The GOP get out the vote effort was massive this year.
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
28187 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:57 am to
The problem they had.. podcasters were begging Trump to go on their podcast shows for free while Kamala was begging podcasters and wanted to pay them for her to go on their shows.

The influencers told her no and to frick off.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96931 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Damned ole train*


I hear the train a comin'.....comin' round the bend
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162908 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:58 am to
Some are wanting to cry that she just didn’t have enough time but the truth is she stalled out once the media driven “buzz” wore off. A longer campaign would have just further exposed her, they waited until the start of the 4th quarter to insert her for a reason
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5998 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:58 am to
Turns out your messaging sucked and was a fraud. Then you went and picked two of the most unlikable and goofy candidates in history to try to sell it. You had to be blind not to see what was going to happen.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
30516 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:58 am to
It comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
Is just a freight train coming your way.
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
3656 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:59 am to
They are going to be working with big tech to try to shut the doors to conservative voice as much as possible. Maybe we have turned some sort of corner given the tweets from Zuck and Bezos, but I doubt it. My hunch is Youtube in 4 years will probably be a much different place than it is today.
Posted by Wulfgar
Member since Jan 2013
2060 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:59 am to
Posted by _Hurricane_
Somewhere
Member since Feb 2016
7579 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:59 am to
The Dems entire ground game was outmatched by Scott Presler’s targeted approach. No one wants you knocking on their door so you can whine about democracy or some other dumb shite. Democrats live in a fantasy world where a fat woman and a skinny soy boy showing up at people’s doors to annoy them is what “doing the work” looks like. And they spent a billion on this shite.

ETA: If every election requires you to mobilize thousands of workers to drag your people to the polls, while the other side just shows up without any pushing. Then who really deserves power? We go out and get people registered and then they go. Dems have to hold their hand all the way to ballot box.
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 10:03 am
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40227 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:00 am to
How did Presler and his people find those voters? Like what do you see as the process?
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
14128 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:00 am to
His group Early Vote Action registered tens of thousands of new Republican voters in PA (hunters, Amish, truckers, etc.)
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