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re: Van Jones on Trump win: ‘It turned out we were the idiots’

Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:21 am to
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35676 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:21 am to
Scott said yesterday he will stay in PA.

I told him, "It's the only responsible thing to do, with the entire lib population having to call you Daddy now."
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26494 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:22 am to
Bongino has long called for the firing of the entire 7th floor.
Posted by MAEFIELD
Member since Jan 2018
331 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Damned ole train*


Well, I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison
And I went to pick her up in the rain
But before I could get to the station in my pickup truck
She got run over by a damned old train
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128779 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:24 am to
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Dems have to hold their hand all the way to ballot box.


Lol. They just have to register them. Then they vote for them.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
26721 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:26 am to
quote:


" we got ran over by a train"


~Van Jones


Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37180 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:26 am to
He mobilized the Amish
Posted by pevetohead
lurking behind sonic
Member since Apr 2017
3532 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:30 am to
Van Jones is a weird fella. He works like clockwork:

Step1 - initial reaction is hilarious melt with insane accusations

Step 2 - after a day or two he finally admits what’s really going on and actually seems like he has it figured out as to why the left are losing

Step 3 - Goes back to Step 1 for the next 3 and a half years
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16402 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:32 am to
Jones has to feel ashamed to have voted and advocated for kamela.

Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
1987 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:33 am to
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what did Scottie P do?


The dude moved to PA two years ago and assembled a team of 70 plus, and was responsible for registering 180-200,000 Amish to vote. He also registered a lot more and was on the ground during early voting and election day keeping people motivated to stay in line. He notified RNC and local GOP leaders when issues were arising.

His process should be taught in every state moving forward. Dude worked tirelessly to turn PA red. Turned Bucks County red for the first time in decades. I believe Lara Trump rewarded him the other day with a role in the RNC.
Posted by pankReb
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73079 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:34 am to
That’s incredible. Get that man a medal.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15819 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:36 am to
She got ran over by a

quote:

Damned ole train*



And I never called her by her name
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25453 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:37 am to
I watched this live last night.

Personally, I don't like one party having sustained power for too long. It's good for a party to have to go back to the drawing board and figure out how to attract the populace. This election wasn't a referendum on Republicans. It's a referendum on Dems missing the message as well as to establishment Republicans that your time is over.

The Democrat Party needs to take a long look inward. Abortion wasn't the winning issue. TransRights aren't the winning issue. People don't give a shite about that. They care about the economy, the border, and staying out of foreign conflicts. Now they can either remake the party in the image of what the country wants, or they can die on the vine like what the GOPe would have done without a culture striking figure taking control of it.
Posted by TarheelPete
Carrboro
Member since Jun 2024
615 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:54 am to
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Pod Saves America


Aren't these the soy filled jizz brains who propped up Biden until it was too late to have a democratic primary? Which led to the coup and installed puppet candidate?

Those guys are figs. Their target market is brain raped college educated white dudes.

No surprise you listen to them.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476712 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Aren't these the soy filled jizz brains who propped up Biden until it was too late to have a democratic primary?

yes, and?

quote:

Those guys are figs. Their target market is brain raped college educated white dudes.

No surprise you listen to them.

Why wouldn't I listen to people across the spectrum?
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8368 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:56 am to
The dems think the solution to combating MAGA is actually becoming more right wing. Don’t think that’s going to work with their woke/leftist base they helped to cultivate all these years
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476712 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:58 am to
Moving to more moderate positions will help their chances in 2028
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:19 am to
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Democrats lost the election because they were playing defense over their policies on the border, crime, and the economy. Those are the key issues that decide elections,

Issues that probably would not have even been major issues had they left Trump policies in place.
All the Biden/Harris/Obama/Clinton administration did was undo what President Trump had done/fixed. All because "OMB". They also tried ramming DEI and other social issues down everyone's throats.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
21280 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:26 am to
Everytime I see a quote from these psychos, I read it with celine dion's "My Heart will Go On" playing in my head but the recorder version
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35615 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:27 am to
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Moving to more moderate positions will help their chances in 2028


They will try to pretend they are doing so in the run-up to that race, but before that their positions won't change. Even the "soul-searching" done by Jones and his ilk is misguided. They don't believe it was their outrageous policies that sunk them. They think they just did a poor job of communicating those policies to the people. I.e., their hubris didn't allow them to think people would be willing to listen to alternative media sources (largely through podcasts) over the MSM. They didn't dare put Kamala in front of any podcaster (Rogan, et al) they weren't 100% sure they could control.

More than that, the Democratic party has fully embraced identity politics. They have become nothing more than the party of "victims". That's not to say those people actually are victims. It's just what Democrats have labeled them and impressed upon them for several years. What they don't realize is when you have multiple baskets of "victims" and are always looking for more (see transgenders) eventually the viewpoints of all those victims start to collide. Their positions in this election could be condensed to two things: (1) Trump is Hitler...something that carried little weight since he had already been President, and was not, in fact, Hitler, and (2) abortion is a moral imperative.

By the time 2028 comes around Trump will be off the ticket and the only states where abortion will be illegal (or at least heavily restricted) will be red states that aren't voting for D's anyway. That means the emotional appeal to women will continue to lose it's effect, and the former party of the "common man" has unabashedly taken the position of hating men. It was just straight white men before this election. But since the outcome they have now taken that hate to black and Latino men as well.

They won't become more "moderate". They will just try to repackage illogical leftism in a new way. The question will be do the alternative media outlets sell out to the MSM? Or will they remain (somewhat) independent?
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 11:29 am
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:42 am to
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Not just that, he's missing the impact of Scott Presler and Turning Point. GOP had a massive ground game to turn out low propensity voters, and it worked.

There were multiple articles about how Trump would lose because he was using volunteers and outsourced his GOTV to people like Elon Musk and TPA while Kamala had an army of veterans, being paid, for their GOTV.

It's glorious the "experts" were so wrong.
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