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re: USA Today Scrubs Passage Suggesting Vaccinated Individuals May Spread COVID... Higher Lvl

Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:29 am to
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18843 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:29 am to
"Scientists" are making shite up at this point, and media is publishing anything that is an edgy scoop.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40758 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:30 am to
One thing is obvious here. Faucci is getting his money's worth from the gain of function "research" they paid for. designer virus that kills people, and perpetual variants that will never go away. Vaccines that pass it on more easily. I mean, you can't write a script like this in hollywood.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16706 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:31 am to
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Federal health officials still believe fully vaccinated individuals represent a very small amount of transmission


This isn’t possible if 60% of the US has been vaxxed or has natural immunity. I bet that number is higher than 60 too. That was just my guess.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6461 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:31 am to
If these studies exist, they should release them.

Otherwise, to me, this looks like a political CYA where Biden will claim he defeated the original coronavirus and this is just a whole different thing. It's not our fault.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:32 am to
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"Scientists" are making shite up at this point, and media is publishing anything that is an edgy scoop.




I would generally agree, I will change my mind when

- they define the goal(s) of the vaccine(s)
- define effective
- tell me how they are going collect the data, and it makes sense
- publishes the data

Right now its all over the place.
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 10:32 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23006 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:32 am to
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Yes and no.



Your thread title suggests that the vaccine itself may spread the virus which is not at all what the article says. It says transmissibility is potentially higher than they thought it would be after getting the vaccine.

That doesn't mean that getting the vaccine means you have a better chance at getting/spreading covid than if you didn't get the vaccine. Simply that the level of protection the vaccine provides is lower than previously expected.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:33 am to
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Your thread title suggests that the vaccine itself may spread the virus which is not at all what the article says.

Correct

He isn't completely literate

Probably on about a 5th grade level as far as deciphering information
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
14719 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:33 am to
That article does not say the vaccine spreads the virus.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81271 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:33 am to
It’s ironic that the experimental vaccine is likely spreading the virus more
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19343 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:34 am to
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Does this mean we can smack a dumbass DJ from 98.1 on the head for blaming the unvaccinated for infecting her vaccinated husband?



She's also fat as frick so while she won't put the energy into taking care of her own health and minding her own fricking business, she demands you do it for her.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Your thread title suggests that the vaccine itself may spread the virus which is not at all what the article says. It says transmissibility is potentially higher than they thought it would be after getting the vaccine.

That doesn't mean that getting the vaccine means you have a better chance at getting/spreading covid than if you didn't get the vaccine. Simply that the level of protection the vaccine provides is lower than previously expected.


If the vaccine has a negative effective transmission rate when added into the equation, I don't think for practical purposes the title is misleading.

No, it doesn't "spread" but it could assist the spread, splitting hairs but it looks like they changed the title after they posted it.

Update: I change the title, as the ZH changed their title.

This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 10:39 am
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4438 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:35 am to
quote:

could


quote:

some
quote:

potentially


quote:

May


it all means nothing. but these people that say nothing definitive, are the same ones that are willing to MANDATE masks/shots/shutting down businesses/ruining the economy/etc. you know...because of the data (which they never show).

this is insanity.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118626 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:36 am to
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USA Today : COVID Vaccine May Spread The Virus
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6209 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:37 am to
Simply unbelievable
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:38 am to
Take a guess to what kind of pig this is.




This is us.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
5990 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:39 am to
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some vaccinated people could be carrying higher levels of the virus than previously understood and potentially transmit it to others


Also does not mean vaccinated individuals end up very sick and in the hospital.

So y'all just go head on being unvaccinated. Just don't call on those who are vaccinated to take care of you when you end up in the hospital!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:39 am to
Not surprising you would also fall for this
Posted by Man With A Plan
Member since Nov 2019
899 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:39 am to
Anyone who can't see what they are doing is blind, this is divide and conquer, take away rights of the vaccinated and blame it on the unvaccinated, "pandemic of the unvaccinated" this isn't about the vaccine this is about power and control, divide and conquer
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14969 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:41 am to
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So y'all just go head on being unvaccinated.



I intend to do just that and I hardly need your approval. My body, my choice. Get over it. And yourself
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112552 posts
Posted on 7/28/21 at 10:42 am to
Why are you rooting for Trump’s vaccine to fail?
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