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re: US Farm Groups want Trump to Spare Their Workers from Mass Deportation

Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:09 pm to
Posted by Texas Yarddog
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:09 pm to
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So they knowingly hire illegals. frick them.


Exactly. I would offer the company execs a fine only (no jail time) if they bring all employees into H1B by March. H1B can be expedited to 15day process for about $3k. There should be some punishment for knowingly hiring illegals over visa or Americans.

If they get started on the paperwork now, they can probably make it without the expedited fee.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:12 pm to
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Exactly. I would offer the company execs a fine only (no jail time) if they bring all employees into H1B by March. H1B can be expedited to 15day process for about $3k. There should be some punishment for knowingly hiring illegals over visa or Americans.

No way they would get H1B.

I believe these would be H2-A visas which has a different and quicker process.
Posted by Texas Yarddog
Member since Apr 2018
3011 posts
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:24 pm to
Oops. Yeah. H2-As would make more sense for ag.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39872 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:09 am to
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Strange, because the 4 years we had the worst immigration problem we also had the worst inflation problem.

More immigrants didn’t help with lowering grocery prices sport.
It's obviously multi-variate (unless you don't think $7 trillion in "extra" spending is a relevant variable).

But go ahead - convince yourself that raising the cost of a major input into food production WON'T be inflationary.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:43 am to
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It's obviously multi-variate (unless you don't think $7 trillion in "extra" spending is a relevant variable).


Another thing to consider in this comparison

If Biden let in 10 million immigrants over 4 years. Thats 2.5 million per year.

Us population is estimated 334 million in 2024 and was 329 million in 2020.

That's a 0.7% increase per year due to illegal immigration.

Compared that to the yearly deficit spending jumps.(2015 was .44 trillion, 2019 was .98 trillion) 100%+ increase under trump by 2019. Then exploding in 2020 up 200%+ that year alone(.98-3.13 trillion) , 2021 and on its been coming down but not very quickly compared to 2015. (2021 2.78- 2024 estimate 1.86).

This to me is a better explanation for significant change in our economy than the .7% increase in people.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 12:44 am
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3010 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:30 am to
Did they knowingly hire illegal immigrants?

So what, give the the consequences for their actions.
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18897 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:32 am to
How many of these illegals have been dutifully paying taxes on their wages?

Yeah that's what I thought.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16410 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:33 am to
Yep

Sorry folks but illegals account for a lot of the farm workers in the US
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18897 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:35 am to
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Yep

Sorry folks but illegals account for a lot of the farm workers in the US


of course they do.. if you could hire someone for a quarter of the cost of an american and face no legal consequences, then you go low cost
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:37 am to
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Nearly half of the nation's approximately 2 million farm workers lack legal status,


So, this means there are at least 1 million US Citizens that will do this work... Funny we have been told US Citizens will not do this work...

Posted by Jimmy Russel
Member since Nov 2021
865 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:54 am to
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Democrats want to keep their slaves.


Lock the thread and sticky it. This is all you need to know.

Have an upvote.

This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 6:55 am
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7904 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:19 am to
Big Food should never have been allowed to use illegals, but they had the cover of GovCo who wanted them for their votes. Insidious.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18539 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:23 am to
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Oops. Yeah. H2-As would make more sense for ag.


Yep. Go get some South Africans. You may pay a little more in labor, but I bet your production and yields will go up.
Posted by FoTownBam
Foley Al
Member since Oct 2023
4588 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:33 am to
Replace the fruit and veggie pickers with the chain gang
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12950 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:04 am to
I think Trumps administration will be pushing back regulations so we can have more small local farms run by American families , rather then large farms full of illegal immigrants.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42398 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:05 am to
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Sorry folks but illegals account for a lot of the farm workers in the US


Not here in Louisiana. They come and check and inspect the housing. You better not get caught with one.

This article is gaslighting.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42398 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:07 am to
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Yep. Go get some South Africans.


Some of the nicest people you will ever meet. There is a bunch of them working in Mississippi in the delta.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57864 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:08 am to
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If those workers are legal, why would the farmers be whining?


Because there are farmers who are lazy pieces of shite and have not gone through the proper channels to get legal migrants here with work visas.

Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33651 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:08 am to
They mean their indentured servants.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28582 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:30 am to
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I think Trumps administration will be pushing back regulations so we can have more small local farms run by American families , rather then large farms full of illegal immigrants.

So how exactly would Trump be able to do this? Will he take land from corporate farming conglomerates and give it to families so they can farms small lots?

My parents on both sides grew up on family farms. Their parents were farmers. No one in the full extended family still owns and farms family land. Trump can't change that.
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