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re: US Farm Groups want Trump to Spare Their Workers from Mass Deportation

Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:33 am to
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:33 am to
Plenty of land up here currently rented to large companies
Posted by SugarCane318
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:36 am to
I own a farm, and all of my migrants are here legally on H2A visas.

I know many farmers, and we all use legal migrants.

I don’t know of a single row crop operation that isn’t fully staffed with legal migrants.

Nurseries on the other hand are almost all illegals. It is rampant in that business. I’d wager the number of illegals in Oakdale, Glenmora, and Forest Hill LA would rival any other sector in our state.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 8:38 am
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:43 am to
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If a machine can pick cotton surely a machine can be invented to pull a carrot out of the ground or whack off a head of lettuce.
damn son are you retarded?
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:46 am to
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I don’t know of a single row crop operation that isn’t fully staffed with legal migrants.


Exactly! It’s not worth the risk. Same with all the rice/crawfish/cattle farmers.

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Nurseries on the other hand are almost all illegals. It is rampant in that business. I’d wager the number of illegals in Oakdale, Glenmora, and Forest Hill LA would rival any other sector in our state.


I wonder if it’s because they are tied to the landscaping businesses?
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:47 am to
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If a machine can pick cotton surely a machine can be invented to pull a carrot out of the ground or whack off a head of lettuce.



This is inevitable given the exponential advance of High Tech. We can hardly imagine the changes likely to come, assuming we survive the social upheaval re the unemployment dynamics.

We know the Transnational Progressive 'solution', I.e., shifting from a Top-Down total control "consumption/production" based economic/civilizational model to the 'Equity' version. Question remains as to what practical, functional and moral alternative that the Individualist/Capitalist (God-based) Model can offer.

Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:49 am to
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US Farm Groups want Trump to Spare Their Workers from Mass Deportation


F**K 'EM! There is a program specifically made to allow farmers to hire immigrants legally. Farmers should either hire Americans or hire migrant workers using the the H2A visa program.
Posted by SugarCane318
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:06 am to
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I wonder if it’s because they are tied to the landscaping businesses?


It’s because they are under the radar.

Hundreds of nurseries in that area are small operations. Those pineywoods around Forest Hill and Glenmora are full of small 3-5 acre nurseries. They aren’t shipping all over the country, they are selling their inventory to the larger nurseries next door who then ship it nationwide.

H2A requires we supply our workers with housing that must pass inspection every year. We also have to provide them transportation, personally I use those white multi person vans. We are responsible for transporting them to and from their home country as well when their contract is up. In other words, the people who are doing it right have considerable expenses in addition to the actual labor costs.

A guy with a few acres of nursery and a couple greenhouses isn’t doing all that. A lot of those little nurseries are just side gigs.

This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 10:09 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:36 am to
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damn son are you retarded?


It was hyperbole dad.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 10:40 am to
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Will be interesting to see how this shakes out.


Particularly as our growth rate continues to slow.
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:12 am to
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It was hyperbole dad.
you never know.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:35 am to
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Some of the nicest people you will ever meet. There is a bunch of them working in Mississippi in the delta.


Met a bunch a few years ago in NE Arkansas.
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