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re: U.S. budget deficit swells to almost $2 trillion for fiscal 2026, up 12% in a single year

Posted on 10/16/26 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
34163 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 3:38 pm to
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non-fraud programs like USAID


masterful bait

wait do you believe this?
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
5205 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 3:39 pm to
LINK

Great site to visualize. Basically every single line item is going up for the last 6 years.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8800 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 3:40 pm to
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It didn't address my post which you not only replied to but quoted.

A general comment about DOGE's effectiveness has nothing to do with the statement or point I made.

It's a deflection

My bruh, your original post, the one you keep defending, was itself a deflection.

Just saying
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
64556 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 3:44 pm to
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My bruh, your original post, the one you keep defending, was itself a deflection.


Saying our politicians don’t care about the deficit was a deflection?
Posted by Tigersforthee
Member since Dec 2025
610 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 3:48 pm to
Democrats definitely firebombed Tesla dealerships and called for Musk to be imprisoned. All for daring to point out, maybe, one percent of the federal budget seemed wasteful and could probably be cut. What exactly would they do do anyone who actually attempted to cut the budget by 20%? Murder them in their front yard?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64348 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 4:10 pm to
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Doge will fix it i'm sure.
Nah. Just need more tariffs!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64348 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 4:12 pm to
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House controls the purse;
That's a good thing, because Trump wants more spending than the House will approve. Let that sink in for a moment.

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until we fix the House and get them to stop passing massive spending bills, this is not going to stop.
Trump wants to send everyone $5,000 ($1.2 Trillion) and add another $700 billion in DoD spending. If he got his way we'd be right at $4T deficit for next year. While "the House" is a problem, it's far from the biggest and only problem.
This post was edited on 10/16/26 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64348 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 4:16 pm to
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Then what was your point of saying “Dems opposed it” multiple times?
Because blaming the "other" side is a bromide. It's not like Republicans were lining up to cut the budget either. But as long as you blame "someone else" the puppets will keep voting for your side. It's classic "useful idiot" behavior.
Posted by Gifman
Captiva, FL
Member since Jan 2021
20095 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 4:19 pm to
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DOGE never had the ability to stop spending, and it found minutia on the fringe and non-fraud programs like USAID


Yes, but USAID’s slush fund had an oversized impact on destroying conservative culture
This post was edited on 10/16/26 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64348 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 4:21 pm to
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However, can we focus first on the 65% of the budget currently in the red, instead of the areas actually lending those red items money, and which will remain in the black for 7 more years?
The problem is we can cut discretionary to $0, and still run a deficit.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 4:41 pm to
The GOP needs to take accountability
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
84658 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 4:43 pm to
I've concluded that the voters don't care


The deficit is just some number that people talk about. They can't relate it to their everyday lives.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
118489 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 4:44 pm to
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DOGE never had the ability to stop spending


correct

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it found minutia on the fringe and non-fraud programs like USAID


bullshite. it found tons of areas to eliminate/cut. Congress never followed through and, in fact, reestablished some of the spending that was cut with the repeated CRs
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
104902 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:12 pm to
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Democrats unilaterally opposed DOGE's efforts. It cannot be denied.


Courts stopped Doge. Needed Republican Congress to codify DOGE and give them power to access all documents regarding spending in govt programs and agencies and the authority to cut discretionary spending and put a halt on spending when fraud was apparent until the fraud was fixed
Posted by civilag08
Member since Feb 2011
852 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:18 pm to
It seems like this was actually old news being re-reported. Back when the Department of War was talking about asking for $1.5 trillion in the future defense bill, we were hearing phrases like “the U.S. will grow its way out of debt.” I think that statement, that we don’t need austerity is viewed with a lot of skepticism, probably by both sides of the political aisle. So, I analyzed different time blocks to see whether this had happened at any point in recent memory. Well, it turns out that during the Clinton presidency, with a Republican House and Senate, there were a couple of two-year congressional blocks (four years from 1997 to 2001) when real GDP growth outpaced debt growth. But there really isn’t a single decade when that was true.

Year_block Nominal_GDP_growth Real_GDP_growth Debt_growth Nominal_GDP_minus_debt_growth Real_GDP_minus_debt_growth
1970–2026 6.21% 2.69% 8.32% -2.11% -5.63%
1970–1980 9.28% 3.01% 7.96% 1.32% -4.95%
1980–1990 7.00% 2.89% 12.16% -5.16% -9.27%
1990–2000 4.96% 2.98% 5.97% -1.01% -2.99%
2000–2010 3.60% 1.63% 7.49% -3.88% -5.85%
2010–2020 3.58% 2.04% 5.59% -2.00% -3.54%
2020–2026 5.61% 2.24% 7.71% -2.11% -5.47%

The reason a lot of rational people are skeptical when they hear claims like that, is that, no matter how brilliant someone is or a group of people may be at innovating ways to increase a nation’s production and economic output, it will always take significantly less brilliance and intelligence to innovate new ways to spend other people's money.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
176492 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:19 pm to
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Yes, but USAID’s slush fund had an oversized impact on destroying conservative culture

How strong is conservative culture if it can be that easily destroyed?
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10963 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:27 pm to
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The problem is we can cut discretionary to $0, and still run a deficit.


Do that, then act like a fricking adult and work on non-discretionary.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32736 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:37 pm to
This is 100% because of the interest rates - they should be lowered

The interest we are paying on the debt, especially bonds, is what is driving this
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
112103 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:38 pm to
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The problem is we can cut discretionary to $0, and still run a deficit


Where would you propose we “start”?
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