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re: US Abruptly Cancels Media Conference After Zelensky Met With Trump's Ukraine Envoy

Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63075 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:19 pm to
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If the minerals are so valuable, why are we cool with them falling into Russian hands?


What a retarded conclusion.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5916 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:20 pm to
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If the minerals are so valuable, why are we cool with them falling into Russian hands?


Ummmm....that is why we are trying to wrap up the mineral rights now.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47605 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:21 pm to
They don’t want peace.

The only outcome to them is win or lose.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:21 pm to
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So Z tries a power move

He in no way threatened Russia's territorial integrity.

I guess if Putin gets his way now, it would be just fine for him to go ahead and invade Latvia, Finland and Estonia next, right? After all, they're just begging for invasion with their provocative actions.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90754 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:22 pm to
Dominoes man they could be falling!
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47605 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:24 pm to
We really don’t gaf what he does unless there’s a direct US interest at stake. They’ve been fighting for centuries.

You keep wanting us to declare a side. Our side is the United States.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63075 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:25 pm to
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Turn to the European Union once the US cuts off materiel supplies. If they don't want to help a fellow European nation, then I guess he just goes down swinging. Eventually his forces would run out of weapons and ammo, and would have to surrender in the field.


And if it goes down like that, what do you estimate is the eventual loss of life and territory?

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I don't believe for a second that any red-blooded American wouldn't fight to the end to save his country. I don't understand why we expect any differently from other countries.


I mean territory has been lost via war since the beginning of time. It’s not an incomprehensible idea.

I don’t think the US is going to force the end of the war. But I think it will present a proposal which when compared to continuing without US support, will be impossible to decline to anyone who cares about Ukraine.

I have no qualm with Ukraine going forward backed by Europe. If that’s what they want, I support the endeavor.

But I also realize there is real risk there. And there will be no bargaining chips if he has to negotiate later. It’s obvious to me that the best deal for Ukraine will be the one with the US sitting at the table helping negotiate.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47605 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:25 pm to
What if the Chinese develop a space laser and take out a Taiwanese 7eleven?!?!! We must invade NOW!
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90754 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:26 pm to
Might as well launch now!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63075 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:27 pm to
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They don’t want peace.

The only outcome to them is win or lose.


There are a ton of libs that are ok with Ukraine spilling every ounce of blood.

The comments about “giving things away” that Russia already has taken shows that they don’t accept reality.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22475 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:29 pm to
This reads like a Powerman post. Are you an alter?
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2072 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:29 pm to
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That is absolutely fricking WRONG. We shouldn't be dictating terms to anyone. We should either continue to support them or not.


Removing US support is leaving the Ukraine to defeat. Negotiating terms on their behalf with Russia, is the more responsible way of handling the situation.

Did you not watch the Afghanistan disaster?
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150379 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:30 pm to
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Works until the Ukrainian army says “frick this shite”
not much of an army left to say 'frick this shite'
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20111 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:31 pm to
Zelenskyy is a clown and a puppet.

Any serious adult in his position as the President of a country sandwiched between two world powers should’ve maintained neutrality, cozied up to both sides and reap the benefits.

Instead he put on his green sweater and played tough guy taking selfies with prominent US politicians. How many of his citizens died because of his foolishness?
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4789 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:31 pm to
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His time is coming to a close.


Which is sad.

He could have lived a whole life using his dick to play piano.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37580 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:32 pm to
Yeah, wonderful treaties like Versailles .

Posted by Onyx Aggie
Foothills of the Smokies
Member since Sep 2012
2957 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:34 pm to
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We just expect the victim to suffer and pay.


I have no fricks to give when one corrupt country invades another corrupt country.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
24566 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:35 pm to
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Z is going to go the way of Saddam and Gaddafi, etc.


One can only hope. It would serve the libs right for what they did to a good man like Gadaffi.

Thankfully, our prince Assad escaped such torment.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47605 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:38 pm to
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not much of an army left to say 'frick this shite'


That’s OK! Harry and Kiwi will send our kids over there to finish the fight!

Slava Ukraine!!!
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6990 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:41 pm to
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Not provoke a war with the threat of parking a NATO member on Russia's border.


That bullshite can't be taken seriously. NATO is a defensive pact. If Putin had no plans to invade Ukraine, NATO on his border wouldn't matter.


You stated in this thread that it's like people have never cracked open a history book. You were describing yourself. You are full of ignorance in this.

This is prior to Russia taking land in 2014.

Do I need to to point out..... What am I thinking. I do need to point it out to you. There is a reason that question was about the Ukraine and Georgia joining NATO.

Look it up.


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And are we going to let some third rate despot dictate who can and who cannot be in our alliance? WTF?


What's your friggin problem with peace?

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The fleet didn't stop the missiles from getting to Cuba.


So this is all fake??


How JFK stopped the crisis:

Kennedy met with advisors in secret to discuss the crisis
Kennedy decided to impose a naval blockade around Cuba
Kennedy gave Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev an ultimatum to remove the missiles
Khrushchev agreed to remove the missiles, and the US agreed not to invade Cuba


Are you saying that did not happen? Please say that you are saying that.

We would have INVADED had they not complied.

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The why are we supporting Putin so much?


We aren't supporting him in anything. In fact, he currently has been sanctioned by the world.

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It would be one thing to just withdraw, but that's not what we're doing. We're trying to give Putin everything he wants, while picking over the remaining carcass ourselves.


No we are not. Your continue to be over the top so much that you are hyper emotional without rational thought.

You claimed we are all on Putin's side. Still have yet to back off that.
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