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re: Unnamed witness flips in mar-a-lago case, admits to lying to grand jury
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:25 pm to Message Board User
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:25 pm to Message Board User
quote:like the guys parroting a lying witness derrr oookkkkk
The average TD poster knows the law better than the clown show that Trump's broke arse has put together.
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:25 pm to RazorBroncs
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loyalty towards Trump that you do
I have no loyalty to him. I have said even tonight that RDS would be the better candidate. However, in South FL there will be at least one that will not vote guilty.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:27 pm to TDTOM
quote:I am no attorney but never try to predict what a jury will do.
Any jury case tried in FL he will skate.
But, if any of the shenanigans that we have heard about occurred, I could the judge tossing it in the mistrial heap and starts all over (sort of).
To the lawyers: can the lawyer that they mentioned his judgeship application, can he be called by the defense?
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
How wet are you currently
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Was it false the first time or second time? One requires jail time.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:56 pm to TrueTiger
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Was he lying then or is he lying now?
The DOJ has security footage that proves he was lying then. The jury will decide if they think he is lying now.
And Nauta's attorney is going to be disqualified for conflict of interest.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:10 pm to Dday63
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The DOJ has security footage that proves he was lying then.
Probably an AI deep fake given the corrupt nature of the DOJ and Jack Smith.
The government is guilty until proven innocent.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
On the obstruction side of the case I would recommend to Jack that this guy be the first witness on the stand. This is going to go great. 
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So was employee 4 lying then or now. Admitted liars make poor witnesses.
Wonder if Jack Smith gets Epsteined if he loses this case. Lots of accidents happen when you disappoint the Deep State.
Wonder if Jack Smith gets Epsteined if he loses this case. Lots of accidents happen when you disappoint the Deep State.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 10:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Trump is getting convicted. Maybe house arrest, but not going to golf tournaments anymore.
Posted on 8/22/23 at 11:37 pm to roadGator
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Yep. Bad for Trump. Must be witness tampering. No other explanation
RobbBobIger on point as always.
ahem
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The end result of the investigation and legal troubles was a unanimous Supreme Court decision overturning the governor's corruption conviction.
McDonnell went on to lay out how Smith had a history of "partisan" legal overreach in the government.
Jack Smith and his team told Lois Lerner at the IRS, it was OK to target certain conservatives and audit their tax returns. Also, he botched the case against the former vice presidential candidate John Edwards that lead to a mistrial. Then ended up in a hung jury in the Bob Menendez case and then you got my case," he said.
Jack Smith is a train wreck when it comes to political prosecutions
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Jack Smith is known for taking on tough cases, but his methods have been called into question
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Paul Gosar
@DrPaulGosar
More pardons are needed. I’ve expressed my support to @realDonaldTrump to pardon Rick Renzi, convicted by corrupt DOJ prosecutors who fabricated evidence. A clear political persecution. Our DOJ is corrupt and inept.
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The problem with the obstruction charges against Trump is they rely heavily on similar charges in the Arthur Anderson fiasco. Which resulted in a unanimous rebuke by the Supreme Court
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Rehnquist wrote. "Indeed, it is striking how little culpability the instructions required." Rehnquist's opinion also expressed grave skepticism at the government's definition of "corrupt persuasion" – persuasion with an improper purpose even without knowing an act is unlawful. "Only persons conscious of wrongdoing can be said to 'knowingly corruptly persuade'", he wrote.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:32 am to RazorBroncs
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I think a lot of you are very naive when it comes to how this could go down.
The cavalier attitude is certainly odd. There’s no shortage of evidence that rules and norms are completely discarded when it comes to Trump. The full weight of the federal and state DOJ’s across the country are targeted at him. Merit has nothing to do with it.
Even Jesus in His innocence couldn’t prevent a determined prosecution from wrongfully executing Him. I like Trump’s chances even less.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 12:34 am
Posted on 8/23/23 at 12:38 am to Snazzmeister
I expect some convictions , but then everything get overturned on appeal, or at the Supreme Court. I mean, Trump was President at the time, if anything, and had immunity , which carries over. The Documents case is the strongest, but there’s also case law and the Records act that will serve him in the higher courts. Trump will be protected in the end, but I do think he will initially be convicted in one of these kangaroo courts
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 12:41 am
Posted on 8/23/23 at 1:28 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
So now we trust this guy when we actually shouldn't have before? He's an admitted liar.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:41 am to CamdenTiger
It doesn’t matter the final result. If they can create enough uncertainty the hope is they will break the will of people leading to them turning to other candidates to avoid a crisis.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 5:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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It has the strongest claims by far. Like legit, Trump should be worried claims.
Yep.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:49 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Immediately after receiving new counsel, Trump Employee 4 retracted his prior false testimony and provided information that implicated Nauta, De Oliveira, and Trump
Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:00 am to ninthward
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lol frick you
Pointing out your irrationality and ad hom response leads to a mini-melt. Classic
Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:00 am to rhar61
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suffering just like Jesus
No just pointing out irrationality.
I don't take personal offense to people using ad hom attacks. It's a matter of rhetorical, not personal, integrity.
Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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You guys are pretending he's the only evidence of this claim. He's just pure corroboration
He shouldn’t be any evidence. He’s an admitted liar.
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