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re: Unelected person/people running the Executive branch

Posted on 6/28/24 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20249 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 7:42 pm to
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Do you really think that Trump gives two shits about the working class?

Yep.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3380 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 7:54 pm to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66404 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 8:03 pm to
Per Seymour Hersh.
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The reality behind all of this, as I’ve been told for months, is that the president is simply no longer there, in terms of understanding the contradictions of the policies he and his foreign policy advisers have been carrying out. America should not have a president who does not know what he has signed off on. People in power have to be responsible for what they do, and last night showed America and the world that we have a president who clearly is not in that position today.

The real disgrace is not only Biden’s, but those of the men and women around him who have kept him more and more under wraps. He is a captive, and as he rapidly diminished over the past six months. I have been hearing for months about the increasing isolation of the president, from his one-time pals in the Senate, who find that he is unable to return their calls. Another old family friend, whose help has been sought by Biden on key issues since his days as vice president, told me of a plaintive call from the president many months ago. Biden said the White House was in chaos and he needed his friend’s help. The friend said he begged off and then told me, with a laugh: “I would rather have a root canal procedure every day than go to work there.” A long retired Senate colleague was invited by Biden to join him on a foreign trip, and the two played cards and shared a drink or two on the Air Force One flight going out. The senator was barred by Biden’s staff from joining the return flight home.

I have been told the increasing isolation of the president on foreign policy issues has been in part the doing of Tom Donilon, whose younger brother, Michael, a key pollster and adviser in Biden’s 2020 presidential campaign and in the current re-election effort, was part of the team that spent much of the week briefing Biden for last night's debate. Tom Donilon, who is 69, was President Biden's national security adviser from 2010 to 2013 and sought unsuccessfully to be named as Biden's director of the Central Intelligence Agency. He remains very much an insider.

Given Biden’s obvious decline in recent months, it is impossible for an outsider to understand why the White House agreed to any debates with Donald Trump before the election, let alone committing to the earliest presidential debate, the first of two, in modern history. One thought, I was told, was that if Biden performed well, as he had in his State of the Union speech in March, the issue of his mental capacity would be tabled. A poor performance would give the Biden campaign time to do a better prep job for the scheduled second debate.

There also was pressure from the major Democratic fundraisers, many of them in New York City, for the campaign to do something to counter the perception of the president’s obvious growing impairment, as reported and filmed by major media. I have been told that at least one foreign leader, after a closed meeting with Biden, told others that the president’s decline was so visible that it was hard to understand how, as it was put to me, “he could go through the rigors” of a re-election campaign. Such warnings were ignored.

What now? One of Washington political savants told me today that the Democratic Party is now facing “a national security crisis.” The nation is backing two devastating wars with a president who clearly is not up to it, he said, and it might be time to start drafting a resignation speech that would match or outdo the one given in March of 1968 by President Lyndon Johnson after his narrow victory over Senator Eugene McCarthy in the New Hampshire primary.

“They’re trapped,” he said of the senior advisers in the White House who hoped that Biden would somehow do well enough in last night’s debates to carry on, with the much-needed support of the more skeptical financial supporters in New York City.

Not everyone I talked to today agreed that it is time to force a Biden resignation and hope for the best at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago in August—to dump the ticket and seek new candidates. “My humble opinion,” one longtime contributor to the Democratic Party told me, “is to let the dust settle. Must examine the realistic options before some quick reaction creates an internal Democratic Party split with far-reaching consequences beyond 2024. Accept reality . . . 2024 is likely beyond recovery at this point. Too steep a hill to climb. Plan and execute a long-term plan to counter Mr. Orange and build a moderate platform for the recovery . . . and let Biden wander off to the Jersey Pine Barrens.”

A differing view was expressed by another political guru. “This is the age of social media—TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, and X—and a political campaign can go very far very fast.”

Whatever happens, we have a president—now fully unveiled—who just may not be responsible for what he does in the coming campaign, not to mention his actions in the Middle East and Ukraine.

Whatever happened to the 25th Amendment that authorizes the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet to declare the president incompetent? What is going on in the Biden White House?

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Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23311 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 8:05 pm to
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While I agree that Biden is not capable, I don’t think that trump is the answer either.


And that has not a damn thing to do with the OP’s point.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21202 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 8:12 pm to
I commented on this earlier.
It's worrisome enough thinking that Biden is the person who decides whether or not to launch a nuclear weapon, but we all know that he isn't the person who will decide. Some unelected commie on his staff will.
Everything is upside down.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3242 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 8:14 pm to
How long would it take for him to be deemed unfit and replaced. Article 25 I think that they wanted to use against Trump? Im not a constitutionalist so really asking for those of you well versed.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85616 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 8:17 pm to
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While I agree that Biden is not capable, I don’t think that trump is the answer either. Do you really think that Trump gives two shits about the working class? He’s never had to mow his own lawn or change a tire for 1 day in his life. He’s a NY aristocrat who wants power. He will routinely change his political opinions to gain votes just like Biden. Remember when he was a democrat?



Yes, any one but the dem at this point is it.


Why would you vote for the people who has wheeled up a dead guy and for years gaslit you about his health?


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85616 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 8:19 pm to
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For the very wealthy, yeah. But it doesn’t make much of a difference for the average working class family.



quote:

IRS data proves Trump tax cuts benefited middle, working-class Americans most



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Congressional Democrats have argued that one of the best ways to pay for the legislation is to raise taxes on wealthy households, which, according to many on the left, have benefited disproportionately and unfairly from the 2017 tax reform law passed by Republicans and signed by former President Trump. The latest data, however, proves that this claim is pure mythology.



Keep voting for the lying fricks.


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Income data published by the IRS clearly show that on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans’ tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent, as so many Democrats have argued.



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The IRS data further shows that the tax reform law — which included a variety of business tax cuts, including a large reduction in the corporate income tax rate — spurred economic mobility.





This post was edited on 6/28/24 at 8:23 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 8:21 pm to
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Unelected person/people running the Executive branch

Been like this for a long time. Nixon called it, "Little people in big jobs." These people think they run the country.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12423 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 8:24 pm to
People believe in him. After the last 3 years it’s not that hard to see why. How about the people who hate ever policy decision he made and reversed them just because he started it while in office only to switch back because he was right,
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35786 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 8:31 pm to
That's always the case. The reality is that the Chief of Staff tends to run the day to day. Typically CoS determines who gets in to see POTUS
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6301 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:29 pm to
Are you 12?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55376 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 9:43 pm to
That's what worship means to you?


quote:

the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.


Trump is not a deity.


quote:

show reverence and adoration for (a deity); honor with religious rites.



So in both noun and verb, you are wrong.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10266 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 2:46 am to
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But his cult following is weird. Why would anyone want to worship a politician?


People don't worship Trump. It's just the excuse Trump haters use to make themselves feel better about supporting losing candidates. The majority of Trump supporters here said they would reconsider if Haley were the VP. That can't be described as worship of Trump.

It also makes the Trump haters react a certain way, which is why some people intentionally push it to the limits.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6544 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:51 am to
quote:

For the very wealthy, yeah. But it doesn’t make much of a difference for the average working class family.


He doubled the standard deduction. That was pretty damn helpful.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30601 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:56 am to
Yea his unfunded Tax Cuts For The Rich were the primary reason his party lost 42 House seats in 2018.
Posted by Broadside Bob
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2012
1615 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 4:58 am to
quote:

While I agree that Biden is not capable, I don’t think that trump is the answer either.

Do you really think that Trump gives two shits about the working class? He’s never had to mow his own lawn or change a tire for 1 day in his life. He’s a NY aristocrat who wants power. He will routinely change his political opinions to gain votes just like Biden. Remember when he was a democrat?


Well, unless one or both withdraw, you're getting one of these two. BTW, Ronald Reagan once once a Democrat too.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8934 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 6:08 am to
BS.....you're the most uninformed Democrat Socialist on this board.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
8828 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 6:10 am to
quote:

For the very wealthy, yeah


You’ve got your talking points in line, I’ll give you that.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10732 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 6:29 am to
quote:

Tony Montana is a symbol of the American Dream. Same with Tyler Durden. Both are metaphors for individuals who don’t give a frick about playing by societal rules. If they see something, they get it.


$100 says this slapdick has either a tribal or barbed wire tattoo on his bicep, wears a flat bill cap, a beer gut, and white Oakleys.

Probably owns a jetski too.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 6:36 am
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