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re: Tucker went hard after Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin last night
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:05 am to TigersWin88
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:05 am to TigersWin88
quote:pretty sure there is a middle ground to be America First without being a neocons or wishing for a holy war with the Jews.
Do you want the neocons to continue to rule? Or do you want the party to put America First
If you think seeding a movement by openly hating a race is going to work out in the long run then you’re a retard
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:05 am to East Coast Band
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Why do qe have the few conservative media voices all fighting each other.?
That's what controlled opposition does. When they have the opportunity and power to enact real change, they opt instead to deliberately shite the bed.
That's why we're doomed.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:05 am to Azkiger
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But that's not why he is getting criticized and you shouldn't let him wield that as a shield against all the crazy shite he says.
It’s absolutely part of what he’s being criticized for.
Look at the response of Levin and Shapiro towards anyone who questions the existing paradigm? They’re openly calling for people to be deplatformed.
Look at the response of the ADL.
Look at AIPAC primarying Massie into oblivion. He didn’t say anything crazy, he’s just asking questions.
Don’t pretend this is just a Fuentes issue because it’s self evidently not.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:06 am to tide06
Where you are on this, is where I was a few weeks ago when this all boiled over into the mainstream.
"Tucker can have on a controversial guest. He is just a reformed neocon wanting to clear things up in discussion."
What I now see is Tucker isn't a flannel shirt wearing howdy doody let's talk about it ALL guy.
He had on Ted Cruz and excoriated him. I happen to agree with why he did. But then he had on an outright bigoted white supremacist that makes no qualms about expressed complete hatred of Jews and Israel.
Then... to clear it all up he excoriates Shapiro and Levin. Can someone timestamp the video to where Tucker also calls out Fuentes? You won't find it. So it isn't fair discussion, Tucker has an agenda way beyond being a reformed neocon Dudley do gooder.
Tucker is smart. It is about the future of elections. How does outright Jew hating make the neocon go away? It makes Israel the new Russia boogieman which could easily attract neocons.
Fuentes thinks everyone he doesn't like and Erika Kirk are "Mossad" plants. He is nuts like Candace.
"Tucker can have on a controversial guest. He is just a reformed neocon wanting to clear things up in discussion."
What I now see is Tucker isn't a flannel shirt wearing howdy doody let's talk about it ALL guy.
He had on Ted Cruz and excoriated him. I happen to agree with why he did. But then he had on an outright bigoted white supremacist that makes no qualms about expressed complete hatred of Jews and Israel.
Then... to clear it all up he excoriates Shapiro and Levin. Can someone timestamp the video to where Tucker also calls out Fuentes? You won't find it. So it isn't fair discussion, Tucker has an agenda way beyond being a reformed neocon Dudley do gooder.
Tucker is smart. It is about the future of elections. How does outright Jew hating make the neocon go away? It makes Israel the new Russia boogieman which could easily attract neocons.
Fuentes thinks everyone he doesn't like and Erika Kirk are "Mossad" plants. He is nuts like Candace.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:08 am to DrrTiger
Tucker has gone full Candace. Team Ben on this one.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:10 am to tide06
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It’s absolutely part of what he’s being criticized for.
Look at the response of Levin and Shapiro towards anyone who questions the existing paradigm? They’re openly calling for people to be deplatformed.
Look at the response of the ADL.
Look at AIPAC primarying Massie into oblivion. He didn’t say anything crazy, he’s just asking questions.
Don’t pretend this is just a Fuentes issue because it’s self evidently not.
Feel free to post the clips of, for example, Shapiro being upset Fuentes is questioning Israel's motives towards America?
Every instance I've seen is Shapiro calling out the horrible things he has said.
Also show me Shapiro calling for Fuentes to be deplatforned.
"I think he should be asked some tough questions" doesn't equal deplatforming, btw.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:13 am to AlxTgr
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Team Ben on this one.
"The existence of the state of Israel is the single greatest guarantor of my loyalty to the USA." -- Ben Shapiro
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:14 am to BamaScoop
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Fox like every other media outlet is owned by fricking Jews, what do you not get?
The Murdochs aren't Jewish and most every media outlet is part of a publicly traded conglomerate. Any other histrionics you'd like to share?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:15 am to DrrTiger
quote:He sure is passionate about that.
The existence of the state of Israel is the single greatest guarantor of my loyalty to the USA
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:17 am to Zgeo
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Tucker developed JDS for some reason and it keeps growing. Levin and Shapiro are ok, as is Tucker except for his JDS….
no he thought there might be an opportunity to expand his audience by picking the low hanging fruit of the handful of anti jewish right wingers, but more importantly pickup many of the jew hating lefties, the majority of the new democrat party.
look these people miscalculate, look at glenn beck he thought eating that bowl of cheetos was going to be the end of trump and push ted screwsloose over the finish line! now he's like a mutt dog who schit in the house now scratching at the back door to be let back in.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:20 am to DrrTiger
Nick Fuentes can be a scourge and still make salient points.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
We are too often ad hominem attacking individuals rather than assessing the validity of the points they make
The two are not mutually exclusive.
We are too often ad hominem attacking individuals rather than assessing the validity of the points they make
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:21 am to tide06
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Look at the response of Levin and Shapiro towards anyone who questions the existing paradigm? They’re openly calling for people to be deplatformed.
Look at the response of the ADL.
Look at AIPAC primarying Massie into oblivion. He didn’t say anything crazy, he’s just asking questions.
Don’t pretend this is just a Fuentes issue because it’s self evidently not.
Common threads.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:22 am to SuperSaint
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pretty sure there is a middle ground to be America First without being a neocons or wishing for a holy war with the Jews.
This goes both ways. Tucker is not an antisemite or a nazi, yet people like Levine and Shapiro call him that to discredit his actual views on Israel.
They are no different than the left who cries racism for pointing out that black people commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:22 am to DrrTiger
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"The existence of the state of Israel is the single greatest guarantor of my loyalty to the USA." -- Ben Shapiro
So, when the topic shifts to foreign aid to Israel, ignore his opinion.
This game can be played with Fuentes much better. He's said a lot of horrible shite.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:22 am to TigersWin88
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This might be news to you, but Charlie Kirk was not right about everything.
Give examples that don't include Occupy Democrat memes. Please cite his videos of his own words and then tell us what he was wrong on.
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 9:35 am
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:23 am to BamaScoop
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Fox like every other media outlet is owned by fricking Jews, what do you not get?
You are a miserable fricktard
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:30 am to SuperSaint
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If you think seeding a movement by openly hating a race is going to work out
What is "openly hating a race" in this context? Is it like when conservatives point out disproportionate crime statistics amongst blacks?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:31 am to cajunangelle
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You can be America First MAGA and despise Jew haters.
Even calling for an evaluation of our relationship with Israel gets you called a “Jew Hater”
It’s a phrase that is wielded as a weapon.
It’s a term that has become meaningless, like “racist” or “islamaphobe”
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:34 am to UPT
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The tribalism that has developed over right wing bloggers/podcasters is strange.
Lots of people at my office have their favorite social media grifter
We have a few of challenges and questions here -- and part of it is over definitions. "Right-Wing" -- what is it?
Is a difference of opinion on agendas really a matter of "tribalism"? Or is it censorship and enforcement to strong-arm those who refuse to fall in line with a certain The Echo Chamber position?
Also, can we define "grifter" other than hanging this blackwashing term on the head of Tucker, Candice and anyone else who dare to venture off the Echo Chamber plantation?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:36 am to jrobic4
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Nick Fuentes can be a scourge and still make salient points.
And he will still be toxic as frick.
These "influencers" are dragging down "the right." They have no allegiance except money.
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