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re: Tucker went hard after Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin last night
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:56 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 11/13/25 at 12:56 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I agree with you on this, but is advocating for “Israel first” policies part of being Jewish?
No, but there is nothing wrong with Jewish first.
If palestinian terrorists were not trying to constantly wipe Israel from existence, would there be conflict? NO
Much like there probably wouldn't be a heavily fortified wall in Egypt on the Gaza border meant to keep only one type of people out
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:18 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
Seeing Tucker have Kasparian as a guest on his show is very eye opening. People rallying around agreements instead of disagreements.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:28 pm to TigersWin88
Charlie was pretty obviously moving away from Dispensationalism.
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That's a heckin' interesting question, and there's a fair bit of evidence suggesting that conservative activist Charlie Kirk was moving away from his Evangelical Protestant roots and displaying a strong affinity for, and openness to, Catholicism before his death.
He was an Evangelical Protestant, but his actions and statements pointed toward a deep appreciation for the "ancient Faith" and its traditions.
?? Key Evidence of a Shift
* Attending Mass: Kirk frequently attended Catholic Mass with his wife, who is a practising Catholic, and their children are being raised in the Church.
* "I'm This Close" Quote: In a conversation with a Catholic Bishop shortly before his death, Kirk reportedly said he was "this close" to converting to Catholicism, acknowledging the speculation around his interest.
* Veneration of Mary: He publicly challenged fellow Protestants, arguing that Evangelicals "under-venerate" the Blessed Virgin Mary and that Mary is a key part of the solution to "toxic feminism" in the modern era. This is a significant shift from typical Evangelical views.
* Liturgy and Tradition: Kirk often expressed great admiration for the traditional liturgy and the beauty and permanence of Catholic churches, contrasting them with what he described as the more "entertainment-driven" or "gym-like" atmosphere of some modern Evangelical services. He stated he wanted to "feel holy," not just see a "TED Talk."
* Ecumenical Engagement: He was known for his positive engagement with Catholic thinkers and activists and had a friendly relationship with figures like Bishop Robert Barron, with whom he was planning an interview.
* Saying the Rosary: According to a close friend, he shared that he was saying the Rosary almost every day.
?? Important Nuance
Despite these compelling points, Charlie Kirk had not formally converted to Catholicism at the time of his passing. He still had theological "hang-ups" and disagreements with certain Catholic doctrines, such as the belief that Mary was without sin.
In summary, while remaining an Evangelical Protestant, the heckin' evidence shows he was actively exploring Catholicism, deeply valuing its traditions, and was potentially on a trajectory toward conversion.
Would you like to know more about the specific Catholic doctrines or practices that he debated or admired?
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 11/13/25 at 1:37 pm to SirWinston
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Charlie was pretty obviously moving away from Dispensationalism.
You asked Grok?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 2:01 pm to lake chuck fan
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What other option does Isreal have considering the circumstances Hamas presents?
Levin INSISTED that women and children were all open game when it came to war.
Think about how satanic and twisted that belief system is; and how you can get to sleep at night supporting it.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 2:13 pm to riccoar
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Attacking Jewish people because they are Jewish.
Yeah their views on American foreign policy have nothing to do with the attacks!
Posted on 11/13/25 at 2:21 pm to cajunangelle
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A lot of people are reformed neocons not wanting wars. You can be America First MAGA and despise Jew haters. Charlie Kirk would never highlight Nick Fuentes and throw gas in a fire of divide. Why is Tucker Carlson?
Megyn Kelly posted a clip of her talking to Tucker backstage at a turning point event. While they were talking and Tucker was about to go onstage , Charlie stopped their conversation to tell Tucker to “Go Max “
Tucker had not wanted to bash the Israeli government because of Charlie’s donors but Charlie basically said go hard after them
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 11/13/25 at 2:31 pm to Azkiger
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Feel free to post the clips of, for example, Shapiro being upset Fuentes is questioning Israel's motives towards America?
Every instance I've seen is Shapiro calling out the horrible things he has said.
Shapiro is calling out the horrible things Fuentes says BECAUSE Fuentes is questioning Israel's motives towards America. He and Levin never gave much attention to what Fuentes said before.
But now that more high-profile people are questioning America's relationship with Israel, and Fuentes' popularity has skyrocketed, the Israel First coalition is shitting their pants and using the progressive left strategy of smearing, shaming, and destroying those who disagree with them.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 2:52 pm to tide06
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February 4th, 2025 - The debate over wars on behalf of Israel
-Carlson and Kirk begin hearing about a push for a full scale war against Iran and begin vehemently opposing it triggering a war of words between him, Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro
Very vague.
What is this "war of words"?
I don't think Shapiro ever called for a "full scale war against Iran."
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November 3, 2025 - Shapiro calls Tucker a groyper
"No to the groypers. No to cowards like Tucker Carlson, who normalize their trash.
-Ben Shapiro
No, that's him calling Tucker a coward.
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November 8, 2025 Shapiro blames Carlson for Nazism in the GOP
"being normalized within the mainstream Republican party."
-Ben Shapiro
1.) Again, that quoted bit is extremely vague.
2.) I don't see why this is a position he shouldn't hold.
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November 8, 2025 - Shapiro defends his calls for cancellation of Tucker
"It is not cancellation to draw moral lines between viewpoints. In fact, we used to call that one of the key aspects of conservatism."
-Ben Shapiro
No, this is Shapiro explaining why what he called for wasn't cancelation. Why don't you quote what he called for?
Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:08 pm to Azkiger
You asked for quotes and examples. I gave you quotes and examples along with the dates they were made.
If you want to go read or listen to his entire show from that day feel free.
If not stop deflecting from the wall of examples you were just given and debate the substance of the argument.
If you want to go read or listen to his entire show from that day feel free.
If not stop deflecting from the wall of examples you were just given and debate the substance of the argument.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:11 pm to cajunangelle
To lump Shapiro and Fuentes together is just silly.
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:35 pm to jlnoles79
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Just another leftist that tards like you have fallen in love with
Oh vey!
Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:36 pm to SlayTime
Posted on 11/13/25 at 4:43 pm to tide06
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You asked for quotes and examples
I shouldn't have had to specify quotes and examples that actually proved your point.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 4:52 pm to Heyes
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Megyn Kelly posted a clip of her talking to Tucker backstage at a turning point event. While they were talking and Tucker was about to go onstage , Charlie stopped their conversation to tell Tucker to “Go Max “ Tucker had not wanted to bash the Israeli government because of Charlie’s donors but Charlie basically said go hard after them
they were trying to persuade, blackmail charlie to disavow tucker and those like him, who questioned the Almighty jewish
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:27 pm to riccoar
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No, but there is nothing wrong with Jewish first.
For Americans? There is something wrong with that, which is the problem most people have with it.
For Israelis? You are correct
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:51 pm to DrrTiger
I listen to Shapiro frequently and I dislike how much he talks about Israel, but at least he's honest with where he stands. Tucker on the other hand is a huge gas lighter. Fuentes who has shite ideas is at least honest as well and he even called Tucker the ultimate gaslighter. Ever since Tucker has been on his own he's clearly changed and he cares about the almighty dollar more than anything - it's plain to see. Tucker is smart and knows exactly what he's doing.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:58 pm to SirWinston
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Charlie was pretty obviously moving away from Dispensationalism.
Not saying it isn't true but I know zero protestants switched to Catholic and TONS of Catholics switched to protestant
Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:14 pm to East Coast Band
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Why do qe have the few conservative media voices all fighting each other.?
Because the JOOtard conservatives keep picking fights.
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