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re: Trumps gave China the off ramp they needed in his brief presser

Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38662 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:26 pm to
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?


Dude, breaking China is making a better trade arrangement with them. That's the point. There's no pivot here. I think some of you take certain kinds of language to their full implication. People just use aggressive language or excited language, nothing more.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75158 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:26 pm to
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?

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because both cant be true.

Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19314 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:27 pm to
The deal needed is a backbreaking agreement
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13154 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:28 pm to
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my neck is hurting following all of this.


That happens when you're looking left all the time.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:32 pm to
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?
Deal.

The threat of trying to break them is what will get them to the table to possibly make a deal.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
10157 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:34 pm to
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This is all well and good, but China is not our biggest problem right now.

Correct, the Democrat Party is
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5334 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:36 pm to
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?


The threat of us breaking them will increase their sense of urgency to strike a more favorable deal with the US

If they do that it’s a win
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87365 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:38 pm to
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is an improvement not a win?



Sure, to me it is

But my point is that if you start with "this is an existential threat and we're facing a watershed moment for the future of America" and then claim victory for something that may be largely unnoticeable to most, it's pretty reasonable for people to point out the incongruence.


Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13681 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:49 pm to
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The goalposts move every secon


You TDS f@gs are the only people moving them.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13681 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:50 pm to
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It seems to me you are really stretching your desire to not have Trump and the US succeed here.

which is kinda sad for you


TDS is real. It's a deep, obsessive hatred.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117587 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:50 pm to
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?

Perhaps it's breaking Xi instead of breaking China. They've got a lot of internal problems and although they are communist it doesn't mean you're Fearless Leader for life. The party could decide it's time for him to retire and get someone who is more into good relations with the west and less into spending billions on a military that only provokes bad relations.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13681 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:55 pm to
BayouBitch can't help but spew TDS nonsense. What a pussy.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
16063 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:58 pm to
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because both cant be true.


Of course we can do both. We want to break China and make a deal. Both of those are good for us.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:59 pm to
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Correct, the Democrat Party is


The Democrats didn't come up with this:

quote:

In the Senate of the United States,

April 5 (legislative day, April 4), 2025.

Resolved, That the resolution from the House of Representatives (H. Con. Res. 14) entitled “Concurrent resolution establishing the congressional budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2025 and setting forth the appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2026 through 2034.”, do pass with the following

SECTION 1. Concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2025.

(a) Declaration.—Congress declares that this resolution is the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2025 and that this resolution sets forth the appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2026 through 2034.

...

(4) DEFICITS.—For purposes of the enforcement of this resolution, the amounts of the deficits are as follows:

Fiscal year 2025: $936,265,000,000.
Fiscal year 2026: $961,632,000,000.
Fiscal year 2027: $1,073,837,000,000.
Fiscal year 2028: $1,239,653,000,000.
Fiscal year 2029: $1,177,366,000,000.
Fiscal year 2030: $1,265,422,000,000.
Fiscal year 2031: $1,282,320,000,000.
Fiscal year 2032: $1,321,278,000,000.
Fiscal year 2033: $1,466,642,000,000.
Fiscal year 2034: $1,404,891,000,000.

(5) PUBLIC DEBT.—Pursuant to section 301(a)(5) of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 (2 U.S.C. 632(a)(5)), the appropriate levels of the public debt are as follows:

Fiscal year 2025: $36,525,094,000,000.
Fiscal year 2026: $37,838,733,000,000.
Fiscal year 2027: $39,140,384,000,000.
Fiscal year 2028: $40,566,455,000,000.
Fiscal year 2029: $42,102,586,000,000.
Fiscal year 2030: $43,583,333,000,000.
Fiscal year 2031: $45,068,345,000,000.
Fiscal year 2032: $46,595,036,000,000.
Fiscal year 2033: $48,382,716,000,000.
Fiscal year 2034: $50,481,979,000,000.


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Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27770 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?


Trump always wants to make a deal.

He just cut China’s negotiating power off at the knees, actually they just did it to themselves.

They have a much weaker hand today than they did yesterday, and now they’ve been massively embarrassed.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?


We broke them. They are ready to make a deal.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38005 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:39 pm to
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?

¿Por que no las dos?
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30261 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:42 pm to
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The goalposts move every second -- my neck is hurting following all of this.

The art of the deal being what it is, there's always negotiations back and forth.
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:44 pm to
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You’re going to bitch no matter what the outcome aren’t you
it's been very obvious that the plan from the left is to claim things didn't work no matter how they work out. Tariffs remain? Trump failed at negotiating. Tariffs pulled back? Trump folded. It's actually kind of pathetic
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42083 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?


As much as I would like to see China broken we are still way too tied to them economically.
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