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re: Trumps gave China the off ramp they needed in his brief presser
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:26 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:26 pm to Bunk Moreland
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?
Dude, breaking China is making a better trade arrangement with them. That's the point. There's no pivot here. I think some of you take certain kinds of language to their full implication. People just use aggressive language or excited language, nothing more.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:26 pm to CAD703X
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?
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because both cant be true.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:27 pm to Bunk Moreland
The deal needed is a backbreaking agreement
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:28 pm to Bunk Moreland
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my neck is hurting following all of this.
That happens when you're looking left all the time.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:32 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:Deal.
So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?
The threat of trying to break them is what will get them to the table to possibly make a deal.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:34 pm to Harry Boutte
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This is all well and good, but China is not our biggest problem right now.
Correct, the Democrat Party is
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:36 pm to Bunk Moreland
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?
The threat of us breaking them will increase their sense of urgency to strike a more favorable deal with the US
If they do that it’s a win
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:38 pm to cajuntiger1010
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is an improvement not a win?
Sure, to me it is
But my point is that if you start with "this is an existential threat and we're facing a watershed moment for the future of America" and then claim victory for something that may be largely unnoticeable to most, it's pretty reasonable for people to point out the incongruence.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:49 pm to Bunk Moreland
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The goalposts move every secon
You TDS f@gs are the only people moving them.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:50 pm to jammajin
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It seems to me you are really stretching your desire to not have Trump and the US succeed here.
which is kinda sad for you
TDS is real. It's a deep, obsessive hatred.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:50 pm to Bunk Moreland
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?
Perhaps it's breaking Xi instead of breaking China. They've got a lot of internal problems and although they are communist it doesn't mean you're Fearless Leader for life. The party could decide it's time for him to retire and get someone who is more into good relations with the west and less into spending billions on a military that only provokes bad relations.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:55 pm to BayouBlitz
BayouBitch can't help but spew TDS nonsense. What a pussy. 
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:58 pm to CAD703X
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because both cant be true.
Of course we can do both. We want to break China and make a deal. Both of those are good for us.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:59 pm to tigerfootball10
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Correct, the Democrat Party is
The Democrats didn't come up with this:
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In the Senate of the United States,
April 5 (legislative day, April 4), 2025.
Resolved, That the resolution from the House of Representatives (H. Con. Res. 14) entitled “Concurrent resolution establishing the congressional budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2025 and setting forth the appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2026 through 2034.”, do pass with the following
SECTION 1. Concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2025.
(a) Declaration.—Congress declares that this resolution is the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2025 and that this resolution sets forth the appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2026 through 2034.
...
(4) DEFICITS.—For purposes of the enforcement of this resolution, the amounts of the deficits are as follows:
Fiscal year 2025: $936,265,000,000.
Fiscal year 2026: $961,632,000,000.
Fiscal year 2027: $1,073,837,000,000.
Fiscal year 2028: $1,239,653,000,000.
Fiscal year 2029: $1,177,366,000,000.
Fiscal year 2030: $1,265,422,000,000.
Fiscal year 2031: $1,282,320,000,000.
Fiscal year 2032: $1,321,278,000,000.
Fiscal year 2033: $1,466,642,000,000.
Fiscal year 2034: $1,404,891,000,000.
(5) PUBLIC DEBT.—Pursuant to section 301(a)(5) of the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 (2 U.S.C. 632(a)(5)), the appropriate levels of the public debt are as follows:
Fiscal year 2025: $36,525,094,000,000.
Fiscal year 2026: $37,838,733,000,000.
Fiscal year 2027: $39,140,384,000,000.
Fiscal year 2028: $40,566,455,000,000.
Fiscal year 2029: $42,102,586,000,000.
Fiscal year 2030: $43,583,333,000,000.
Fiscal year 2031: $45,068,345,000,000.
Fiscal year 2032: $46,595,036,000,000.
Fiscal year 2033: $48,382,716,000,000.
Fiscal year 2034: $50,481,979,000,000.
LINK
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:15 pm to Bunk Moreland
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?
Trump always wants to make a deal.
He just cut China’s negotiating power off at the knees, actually they just did it to themselves.
They have a much weaker hand today than they did yesterday, and now they’ve been massively embarrassed.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:52 pm to Bunk Moreland
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?
We broke them. They are ready to make a deal.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:39 pm to Bunk Moreland
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?
¿Por que no las dos?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:42 pm to Bunk Moreland
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The goalposts move every second -- my neck is hurting following all of this.
The art of the deal being what it is, there's always negotiations back and forth.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:44 pm to DeathValley85
quote:it's been very obvious that the plan from the left is to claim things didn't work no matter how they work out. Tariffs remain? Trump failed at negotiating. Tariffs pulled back? Trump folded. It's actually kind of pathetic
You’re going to bitch no matter what the outcome aren’t you
Posted on 4/9/25 at 5:45 pm to Bunk Moreland
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So, do we want to break China or make a deal with them?
As much as I would like to see China broken we are still way too tied to them economically.
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